Oprah show, and after the show
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I know this is out of the conversation context but I have not seen the show and I would like to know if there is a place where I could possibly download it, so that I may follow this thread without asking so many questions… and also.. because I am curious to see what the women on the show had to say.
Try this link: http://www.oprah.com/tows/after/200211/tows_after_20021106.jhtml If that doesn’t work, you can order transcripts here: http://tapesandtranscripts.oprah.com HTH, — Amy ZR 163.5/131.5/WAYOOM & WW: 124 HAC: 100 minutes of moderate activity weekly Week 1: 109 min. So far Week 2: 75 mins Baby Jack’s homepage: http://home.attbi.com/~therorks/
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No time for laying on the couch and answering questions like "did you feel loved as a child" 
Yeah…. every time somebody gave me a plate of food!
I actually had a therapist once try and lead me to realize that my weight problems were my mother’s fault. She may have helped me along but once I hit adulthood I certainly didn’t fix anything! My weight issues are MY fault and no one else’s! — Amy ZR 163.5/131.5/WAYOOM & WW: 124 HAC: 100 minutes of moderate activity weekly Week 1: 109 min. So far Week 2: 75 mins Baby Jack’s homepage: http://home.attbi.com/~therorks/
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You know, it is funny, but I can agree that my weight issues are my *fault* because no person or persons in my childhood did anything but love me, and no one made me eat, anymore than anyone makes a person take drugs, or drink or anything potentially fatal. But that is making a very narrow small issue out of this. It was not my fault that I was depressed. Is it going to help things if I blame Myself? It was not my mom’s fault either, or my dad. Still, the depression was a major player in my eating behavior. I did not "accidently" wake up 200 pounds overweight. And I certainly did not do that to myself "on purpose". And I never "didn’t know" that it was unhealthy. The thing here, I can admit that I had tremendous pain, without blaming Somebody for my pain. It doesn’t make it trivial pain. And it was certainly a reason that I ate too much. Lots of it was just me being very sensitive, childish, self absorbed whatever you will. None of it was a crime, but I am not going to say I ate that much for no good reason.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No time for laying on the couch and answering questions like "did you feel loved as a child" Yeah…. every time somebody gave me a plate of food! I actually had a therapist once try and lead me to realize that my weight problems were my mother’s fault. She may have helped me along but once I hit adulthood I certainly didn’t fix anything! My weight issues are MY fault and no one else’s! — Amy ZR 163.5/131.5/WAYOOM & WW: 124 HAC: 100 minutes of moderate activity weekly Week 1: 109 min. So far Week 2: 75 mins Baby Jack’s homepage: http://home.attbi.com/~therorks/
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I know this is out of the conversation context but I have not seen the show and I would like to know if there is a place where I could possibly download it, so that I may follow this thread without asking so many questions… and also.. because I am curious to see what the women on the show had to say.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You know, it is funny, but I can agree that my weight issues are my *fault* because no person or persons in my childhood did anything but love me, and no one made me eat, anymore than anyone makes a person take drugs, or drink or anything potentially fatal. But that is making a very narrow small issue out of this. It was not my fault that I was depressed. Is it going to help things if I blame Myself? It was not my mom’s fault either, or my dad. Still, the depression was a major player in my eating behavior. I did not "accidently" wake up 200 pounds overweight. And I certainly did not do that to myself "on purpose". And I never "didn’t know" that it was unhealthy. The thing here, I can admit that I had tremendous pain, without blaming Somebody for my pain. It doesn’t make it trivial pain. And it was certainly a reason that I ate too much. Lots of it was just me being very sensitive, childish, self absorbed whatever you will. None of it was a crime, but I am not going to say I ate that much for no good reason. No time for laying on the couch and answering questions like "did you feel loved as a child" Yeah…. every time somebody gave me a plate of food! I actually had a therapist once try and lead me to realize that my weight problems were my mother’s fault. She may have helped me along but once I hit adulthood I certainly didn’t fix anything! My weight issues are MY fault and no one else’s! — Amy ZR 163.5/131.5/WAYOOM & WW: 124 HAC: 100 minutes of moderate activity weekly Week 1: 109 min. So far Week 2: 75 mins Baby Jack’s homepage: http://home.attbi.com/~therorks/
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The thing here, I can admit that I had tremendous pain, without blaming Somebody for my pain. It doesn’t make it trivial pain. And it was certainly a reason that I ate too much. Lots of it was just me being very sensitive, childish, self absorbed whatever you will.
Absolutely, Lesanne. And I certainly hope that my post didn’t come out sounding insensitive. My issue (a far less emotional one than yours) has always been that my mother started sending me to WW, Diet Center, etc. when I was 11 and was *maybe* 5-10 pounds overweight. Living up to her perfection was very difficult for me as a child and even more so as an adult. My therapist (who I sought in my young adulthood not due to weight issues but due to some tragic circumstances) kept telling me that of course I became overweight since my mother always made me feel overweight. That’s probably true but there’s no reason that it took me this long (12 years after leaving the shelter of her home) to find a solution. In all, I’ve realized that I spent too much time hiding from life instead of taking part. Thankfully, I take part as much as possible now. — Amy ZR 163.5/131.5/WAYOOM & WW: 124 HAC: 100 minutes of moderate activity weekly Week 1: 109 min. So far Week 2: 75 mins Baby Jack’s homepage: http://home.attbi.com/~therorks/
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Of course I have thoughts . In my case, I would have said I was not that way because of "pain" either when I was much younger. I can tell you from where I am now however, that before I got to this point where I have lost a big chunk of the weight, pain came Up while it was going on. I did not eat enough to gain over two hundred pounds because I liked food. I do like food, but that was not totally it. When I started eating to nourish my body, instead of to cover up other things, Then I began to realize *after that first diet buzz was off, and the job got a bit harder* It Is not about the Food. Not for me. I don’t think I would have tried to kill myself with food, had I not been a tad depressed. I could not permanently resolve the problem until I came out of denial and changed a lot of things in my life. I can buy a person being 40 or 50 pounds overweight sort of by accident (supersize that will you?) but 200? Not me. Lesanne (365)247/196.4/158
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did anyone catch the show today? She had one several very obese gals, and basically just showed what hell their lives are. I thought they were very brave women, but had a bit of trouble finding a point or focus to the show. Then she brings on Carnie Wilson, who looks great, but she had the surgery. Where is the focus? Then tonite, on the AFter the Show, show, she had on Samantha,. who lost, get this, 300 pounds in a year. They never gave much details about how she did that, or how unhealty it is to lose so fast. She also said she did not do any exercise, just did a "personal inventory" to find what pain was causing her to be so heavy. Sorry, I dont buy it. I dont think every obese person has to be that way because of pain. I have close to 200 pounds to lose. I am not in pain, I did not have a bad childhood, or was I abused. I have had a very successsful career and famly life. I started on diets as a teen, and just fell into that cycle of diet/lose/gain. The more you do that, the more you gain. And , to add insult to injury, during the AFter show, there was a commercial, for weight loss surgery, I have NEVER seen a tv ad for that before now. Any thoughts on this? Losin it
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Saw the show. I agree, there was no real focus. As for the Wilson girl, I am about tired of seeing her. We know what she did already. NEXT…. As for the girl who lost all the weight and did no exercise, I agree with you. I don’t buy it. Anyway, I to have been big most of my life and I did not start losing until I got sick of me and decided to put my mind to it. Great childhood (southern grandma feeding me Great career and family. The fat was all about me. Now the process of undoing what I did over the years is in play. I love me and my accomplishments. No time for laying on the couch and answering questions like "did you feel loved as a child" Yeah…. every time somebody gave me a plate of food! Just some thoughts…. — Michael W. 379/291/180 "Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!"
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did anyone catch the show today? She had one several very obese gals, and basically just showed what hell their lives are. I thought they were very brave women, but had a bit of trouble finding a point or focus to the show. Then she brings on Carnie Wilson, who looks great, but she had the surgery. Where is the focus? Then tonite, on the AFter the Show, show, she had on Samantha,. who lost, get this, 300 pounds in a year. They never gave much details about how she did that, or how unhealty it is to lose so fast. She also said she did not do any exercise, just did a "personal inventory" to find what pain was causing her to be so heavy. Sorry, I dont buy it. I dont think every obese person has to be that way because of pain. I have close to 200 pounds to lose. I am not in pain, I did not have a bad childhood, or was I abused. I have had a very successsful career and famly life. I started on diets as a teen, and just fell into that cycle of diet/lose/gain. The more you do that, the more you gain. And , to add insult to injury, during the AFter show, there was a commercial, for weight loss surgery, I have NEVER seen a tv ad for that before now. Any thoughts on this? Losin it
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Isn’t that the truth Kali.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did anyone catch the show today? She had one several very obese gals, and basically just showed what hell their lives are. I thought they were very brave women, but had a bit of trouble finding a point or focus to the show. Then she brings on Carnie Wilson, who looks great, but she had the surgery. Where is the focus? Then tonite, on the AFter the Show, show, she had on Samantha,. who lost, get this, 300 pounds in a year. They never gave much details about how she did that, or how unhealty it is to lose so fast. She also said she did not do any exercise, just did a "personal inventory" to find what pain was causing her to be so heavy. Sorry, I dont buy it. I dont think every obese person has to be that way because of pain. I have close to 200 pounds to lose. I am not in pain, I did not have a bad childhood, or was I abused. I have had a very successsful career and famly life. I started on diets as a teen, and just fell into that cycle of diet/lose/gain. The more you do that, the more you gain. And , to add insult to injury, during the AFter show, there was a commercial, for weight loss surgery, I have NEVER seen a tv ad for that before now. Any thoughts on this? Losin it The weight loss surgery place was sponsoring the show. If they really wanted to do an objective show and talk about weight loss surgery, they should have brought on some people who have had their lives ruined from it.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did anyone catch the show today? She had one several very obese gals, and basically just showed what hell their lives are. I thought they were very brave women, but had a bit of trouble finding a point or focus to the show. Then she brings on Carnie Wilson, who looks great, but she had the surgery. Where is the focus? Then tonite, on the AFter the Show, show, she had on Samantha,. who lost, get this, 300 pounds in a year. They never gave much details about how she did that, or how unhealty it is to lose so fast. She also said she did not do any exercise, just did a "personal inventory" to find what pain was causing her to be so heavy. Sorry, I dont buy it. I dont think every obese person has to be that way because of pain. I have close to 200 pounds to lose. I am not in pain, I did not have a bad childhood, or was I abused. I have had a very successsful career and famly life. I started on diets as a teen, and just fell into that cycle of diet/lose/gain. The more you do that, the more you gain. And , to add insult to injury, during the AFter show, there was a commercial, for weight loss surgery, I have NEVER seen a tv ad for that before now. Any thoughts on this? Losin it
The weight loss surgery place was sponsoring the show. If they really wanted to do an objective show and talk about weight loss surgery, they should have brought on some people who have had their lives ruined from it.
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Did anyone catch the show today? She had one several very obese gals, and basically just showed what hell their lives are. I thought they were very brave women, but had a bit of trouble finding a point or focus to the show. Then she brings on Carnie Wilson, who looks great, but she had the surgery. Where is the focus? Then tonite, on the AFter the Show, show, she had on Samantha,. who lost, get this, 300 pounds in a year. They never gave much details about how she did that, or how unhealty it is to lose so fast. She also said she did not do any exercise, just did a "personal inventory" to find what pain was causing her to be so heavy. Sorry, I dont buy it. I dont think every obese person has to be that way because of pain. I have close to 200 pounds to lose. I am not in pain, I did not have a bad childhood, or was I abused. I have had a very successsful career and famly life. I started on diets as a teen, and just fell into that cycle of diet/lose/gain. The more you do that, the more you gain. And , to add insult to injury, during the AFter show, there was a commercial, for weight loss surgery, I have NEVER seen a tv ad for that before now. Any thoughts on this? Losin it
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