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Experience with marijuana??

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –My wife has been on a downward slide for the past 2 years. Every combo of medication has been tried. She is presently on effexor, clonazepam, ritalin, and trazadone. She talks about the pain down deep in her chest (deep sadness) She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain. Any experiences or words of wisdom??

It puts me to sleep, so I suppose in that respect, it could help.  But I’m not a regular user, so I haven’t really explored it with respect to my depression.  You might have to be careful with drug interactions.   Melissa — But what it takes to cross the great divide Seems more than all the courage I can muster up inside. But we get to have some answers when we reach the other side. The prize is always worth the rocky ride.                                   –Indigo Girls

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Any experiences

Could help, can make things worse (triggers anxiety for a few). From my point of view it’s worth a shot, that’s just me though. Maybe eating it would be easier. Works best if the herb is finely powdered and then mixed with the butter for a recipe like brownies. Whatever gets you through the night, eh? That chest-core pain is a kind of precursor sensation to emotions of sadness and grief.

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-My wife has been on a downward slide for the past 2 years. Every combo of medication has been tried. She is presently on effexor, clonazepam, ritalin, and trazadone. She talks about the pain down deep in her chest (deep sadness) She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain. Any experiences or words of wisdom??

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x-no-archive: yes posted only DayTrading said: marijuana is no good, don’t even try it Marijuana is a natural source of a natural psychoactive chemical, tetrohydrocannabinol, and is far less harmful than many other things you can do to alter your normal state.  IMNSHO, it’s like everything else that God provides for us, to be used in moderation and with respect for our bodies.

Right on!  And it sure causes us lots less trouble than booze, too. — greg :: Bodhisattva with a real bad attitude         Take the *JUNKMAIL out of my addy to reply by email

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John still waiting for a rational explanation as to why I can buy nicotine over the counter, but not marijuana.

I would like an answer to that one too. Marijuana is my drug of choice. Fay

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  still waiting for a rational explanation as to why I can buy nicotine  over the counter, but not marijuana. The tobacco industry gives huge chunks of cash to politicians. The grass industry doesn’t. I can’t say that’s a rational explanation, but I do believe it’s realistic. yeah, I knew this.  I guess the question was of a rhetorical nature.  I no longer expect rational discourse on the subject. If all they wanted was money they could end the prohibition and set up distribution as for liquor. Drug companies would provide drugs, growers would provide plants. Either distributors or retailers would collect and remit taxes. There has to be more explanation than just money.

It’s money, at least in the States.  The anti-drug business is one of our largest industries.   You’ve heard of DARE?(Drug Abuse Resistance Education) That’s the program were the cops go into the Schools when the kids are 10-12 to teach the kids all about drugs(including alcohol and tobacco).  It’s been in exsistance here in the states for approx 15 years.  All the studies show that it is not having any real impact.  Statistically, the same amount of teenagers are still experimenting with drugs, as before the intriduction of DARE.  But can we stop it?  No way.  It’s a three billion dollar a year industry, and everybody involved fights to keep it going. And that’s just one small aspect of the anti-drug business.  When you consider all the law enforcement, proscecutors, judges, defense attorneys, prison guards, etc; and the cost of building more jails, court houses, etc, you begin to understand just how much money we’re spending to make sure I don’t smoke a joint. The State of Washington passed a citizens initiative this past election, legalizing "medical marijuana".  A doctor can now prescribe marijuana for certain terminally ill patients to ease their pain, or to help mask the effects of chemotherapy.  Yesterday (as reported in the paper) the Tacoma police recieved a "911" call to provide assistance to a man dying of AIDS.  While assisting this gentleman (who is blind, and in the final stages of a terminal illness) the cops noticed several marijuana plants.  It seems this guys mother was growing marijuana for her son. Because they didn’t have a prescription from a Dr. they arrested both of them. It’s hard to fight big business. Maybe it’s marijuana madness.

It’s some sort of morality madness. John

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 still waiting for a rational explanation as to why I can buy nicotine  over the counter, but not marijuana. The tobacco industry gives huge chunks of cash to politicians. The grass industry doesn’t. I can’t say that’s a rational explanation, but I do believe it’s realistic. yeah, I knew this.  I guess the question was of a rhetorical nature.  I no longer expect rational discourse on the subject.

If all they wanted was money they could end the prohibition and set up distribution as for liquor. Drug companies would provide drugs, growers would provide plants. Either distributors or retailers would collect and remit taxes. There has to be more explanation than just money. Maybe it’s marijuana madness.

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She talks about the pain down deep in her chest (deep sadness)

I can relate to that, it feels like a weight on your chest. She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain. Any experiences or words of wisdom??

Grass enhances your mood, and if you are depressed, you just might be even more depressed. At least that was my experience.  I stopped using it for that reason.  Its a nice pleasant buzz, I used to sit and watch TV with the sound off for hours. Come to think of it, I used to do that anyway.

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She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain.

 It could also add some zip to your sex life, if that’s of any interest.  Her mileage may vary.

OK, I was stoned and snuggling with my girlfriend, I was being sooo sweet and sexy, going with the flow, feeling the energy, playing cloy and going ever so slow, being sensitive to her every reaction as my finger explored and tingled her most precious points…when she says, "look if you’re bored, just go to sleep."

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 still waiting for a rational explanation as to why I can buy nicotine  over the counter, but not marijuana. The tobacco industry gives huge chunks of cash to politicians. The grass industry doesn’t. I can’t say that’s a rational explanation, but I do believe it’s realistic.

yeah, I knew this.  I guess the question was of a rhetorical nature.  I no longer expect rational discourse on the subject. John

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if you eat it you have to use a LOT more, and ive found that to be prohibitively expensive

Sorry, I’m Canadian. Eating does take more. lemmie know if you want any rescipes

Hey, I have a friend with a recipe better than Amsterdam Space Cake. No shit – best brownies in the world. He says he’s going to give it to me when I move away. I’ll be sworn to secrecy though. and dont forget me if theres leftovers

Leftovers?

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 still waiting for a rational explanation as to why I can buy nicotine  over the counter, but not marijuana.

The tobacco industry gives huge chunks of cash to politicians. The grass industry doesn’t. I can’t say that’s a rational explanation, but I do believe it’s realistic. Stuck

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x-no-archive: yes posted only DayTrading said: marijuana is no good, don’t even try it Marijuana is a natural source of a natural psychoactive chemical, tetrohydrocannabinol, and is far less harmful than many other things you can do to alter your normal state.  IMNSHO, it’s like everything else that God provides for us, to be used in moderation and with respect for our bodies.

Amen! John still waiting for a rational explanation as to why I can buy nicotine over the counter, but not marijuana.

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I think it’s a little over-rated to be honest. Andy

yeah, that’s where I come into it, too… I have never understood the affection some people have for it, since it’s never more effect on me than your standard tobacco cigarette would.  The only thing I noticed from the brownies was that they had a weird texture.  I guess it’s chemistry and mine just don’t recognize each other.  I rather like the incense-y smell, though. OTOH, it is the single most effective and least negative (as in side effects) medication that my SO has found for nausea, and I understand that’s a big bonus for people on long-term or powerful drugs. just my 2 cents worth…

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-My wife has been on a downward slide for the past 2 years. Every combo of medication has been tried. She is presently on effexor, clonazepam, ritalin, and trazadone. She talks about the pain down deep in her chest (deep sadness) She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain. Any experiences or words of wisdom??

I think it’s a little over-rated to be honest. Andy

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Maybe eating it would be easier. Works best if the herb is finely powdered and then mixed with the butter for a recipe like brownies.

um, if you eat it you have to use a LOT more, and ive found that to be prohibitively expensive lemmie know if you want any rescipes :-) and dont forget me if theres leftovers :-) matt  (currently still pie`oh`pa on irc)

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marijuana is no good, don’t even try it

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She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain.

um, short term, pots great for anxiety and depression, lots of immediate relief, for many people, however, long term use can have some side effects that arent so good, paranoia, anxiety, depression, i guess youd have to decide if a little relief now is worth some shit down the road, im a pot smoker, recreational and self-medicative, ive had good luck with it, but theres no telling how an individual whos never tried it and is in distress will react, if she DOES get high, make sure you pay close attention for a couple days, and see what if any NEGATIVE effects it has and if you get a bag and decide you dont like it, send me whatevers left over, ill dispose of it properly matt  (currently pie`oh`pa on irc)

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-My wife has been on a downward slide for the past 2 years. Every combo of medication has been tried. She is presently on effexor, clonazepam, ritalin, and trazadone. She talks about the pain down deep in her chest (deep sadness) She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain. Any experiences or words of wisdom??

As one poster has already said, it enhances your mood. I have been very depressed through the years, and especially right now. I find that when I smoke it may send me into the pits of depression (crying and unrelenting sobbing for hours). On the other hand, it may cause me to have the best time of my life. It all depends on what is happening and who I’m with while I’m stoned. The crying and sobbing doesn’t have to be totally negative. I feel like talking about what is making me sad during those times, which may be beneficial to both of you, if you are willing to talk to her at those times (and if you can understand what is being said between the burbles and garbles). I would definitely suggest that if she is going to try it, she should not be ALONE or under any pressure to perform any duties. If you already know what is making her sad, and that talking about it doesn’t help, you need to be sure to have some enjoyable activity planned ahead of time. Also, she most likely will not feel much, if any, effects from the drug the first or even the second time she smokes. My suggestion to you rather than pot, would be to try hugs. Men don’t seem to understand that women need hugs and affection as much, if not more, than men need sex. If a man would spend half the time giving his woman loving hugs and kisses, that he spends trying to find her best "G" spot, he wouldn’t even need to look for it in the first place. Don’t make the mistake of using a traditional "MAN" style hug(where one hand is placed loosely around her and the other is patting her on the back). This is very patronizing. You have to wrap both arms tightly around her and hold her very snugly for as long as she needs. And for God’s sake don’t make a sexual advance during that time! But just in case your miss whatever subtle advance she may make, you need to be prepared to end the hug with a catch all phrase… something along the lines of "I love feeling you close to me", or simply "I love you", even "I really want to help you through this" will work (but it does leaves a little more room for her to interpret it as a rejection of any undetected sexual advances she may have made). Debbie Who knows first hand the despair from the depths of depression.

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She talks about the pain down deep in her chest (deep sadness) She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain. Any experiences or words of wisdom??

(snipped here and there) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -My suggestion to you rather than pot, would be to try hugs. Men don’t seem to understand that women need hugs and affection as much, if not more, than men need sex. If a man would spend half the time giving his woman loving hugs and kisses, that he spends trying to find her best "G" spot, he wouldn’t even need to look for it in the first place. Don’t make the mistake of using a traditional "MAN" style hug(where one hand is placed loosely around her and the other is patting her on the back). This is very patronizing. You have to wrap both arms tightly around her and hold her very snugly for as long as she needs. And for God’s sake don’t make a sexual advance during that time! But just in case your miss whatever subtle advance she may make, you need to be prepared to end the hug with a catch all phrase… something along the lines of "I love feeling you close to me", or simply "I love you", even "I really want to help you through this" will work (but it does leaves a little more room for her to interpret it as a rejection of any undetected sexual advances she may have made).

Not wanting to start anything and this being said in a very curious tone of voice, but I find *your* post rather patronizing. My interpretation of the original question was a loving partner looking for a way to alleviate his wifes pain and you’re assuming that he doesn’t know how to hug and needs lessons from you? Or that any moments of tenderness from men are overtly, or at best, latently sexual? I hear what you’re saying (Oh my god, I’m sounding like a hippy!) but feel a need to correct this stereotype. I’ve seen quite a few women ( mothers, sisters, friends) do the phony hands on shoulder , kiss the air 6 cm away from actual cheek, kisses. I agree with the need for more, ALOT more, men to be able to open up but isn’t it time to stop assuming? P.S. Most people don’t get stoned the first few times they smoke because of quantity taken, eating it is a good alternative in that situation.

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It’s some sort of morality madness. All morals are madness.

I like that! I’ve always thought that if you have to have morals, they should be flexible. John

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – She talks about the pain down deep in her chest (deep sadness) She wants to try marijuana. (She is neither a smoker or drinker so this request is totally out of character). She thinks it might help alleviate the deep sad pain. Any experiences or words of wisdom?? (snipped here and there) My suggestion to you rather than pot, would be to try hugs. Men don’t seem to understand that women need hugs and affection as much, if not more, than men need sex. If a man would spend half the time giving his woman loving hugs and kisses, that he spends trying to find her best "G" spot, he wouldn’t even need to look for it in the first place. Don’t make the mistake of using a traditional "MAN" style hug(where one hand is placed loosely around her and the other is patting her on the back). This is very patronizing. You have to wrap both arms tightly around her and hold her very snugly for as long as she needs. And for God’s sake don’t make a sexual advance during that time! But just in case your miss whatever subtle advance she may make, you need to be prepared to end the hug with a catch all phrase… something along the lines of "I love feeling you close to me", or simply "I love you", even "I really want to help you through this" will work (but it does leaves a little more room for her to interpret it as a rejection of any undetected sexual advances she may have made). Not wanting to start anything and this being said in a very curious tone of voice, but I find *your* post rather patronizing. My interpretation of the original question was a loving partner looking for a way to alleviate his wifes pain and you’re assuming that he doesn’t know how to hug and needs lessons from you? Or that any moments of tenderness from men are overtly, or at best, latently sexual? I hear what you’re saying (Oh my god, I’m sounding like a hippy!) but feel a need to correct this stereotype. I’ve seen quite a few women ( mothers, sisters, friends) do the phony hands on shoulder , kiss the air 6 cm away from actual cheek, kisses. I agree with the need for more, ALOT more, men to be able to open up but isn’t it time to stop assuming? P.S. Most people don’t get stoned the first few times they smoke because of quantity taken, eating it is a good alternative in that situation.

Squid, You must be one of the many men who do know how to hug, and I commend you for that, but you are in a minority. Obviously, this was not directed toward someone who already knows how to hug a woman. If this were a chat room I may have asked the original poster if he had considered hug therapy. As it is not, rather than ask him to post an answer to a potentially embarassing question, I thought it best to post the info. and let him decide whether to use it or not. Any undertones of assumption can be attributed to the fact that my own husband (who is also a loving caring person) does not know how to hug, and despite my efforts to show him, it hs not had the same effect as perhaps someone else telling him might.

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As one poster has already said, it enhances your mood.

pot is a mild euphoric, NOT a `mood enhancer` whatever the hell thats supposed to mean

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It’s some sort of morality madness.

All morals are madness.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My suggestion to you rather than pot, would be to try hugs. Men don’t seem to understand that women need hugs and affection as much, if not more, than men need sex. If a man would spend half the time giving his woman loving hugs and kisses, that he spends trying to find her best "G" spot, he wouldn’t even need to look for it in the first place. Don’t make the mistake of using a traditional "MAN" style hug(where one hand is placed loosely around her and the other is patting her on the back). This is very patronizing. You have to wrap both arms tightly around her and hold her very snugly for as long as she needs. And for God’s sake don’t make a sexual advance during that time! But just in case your miss whatever subtle advance she may make, you need to be prepared to end the hug with a catch all phrase… something along the lines of "I love feeling you close to me", or simply "I love you", even "I really want to help you through this" will work (but it does leaves a little more room for her to interpret it as a rejection of any undetected sexual advances she may have made).

Debbie, this is the *best* description of therapeutic hugging I have ever seen!  Women of ASD, print this out and hand it to your SO right away!!!  I’m serious.  I’ve been hugged this way, and I wish I could have hugs like this *every* time I need them.  "Wrap both arms tightly around her and hold her very snugly for as long as she needs."  That’s where it’s at, men.  As long as *she* needs.  <sigh

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