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Mike, of course I can’t say I know what you feel exactly, but I know what strong depression in general feels like.  If it helps any, I can empathize with you. The "things are going to get better, they have gotten better always before" as you said "this too shall pass"…. that is VERY important to me in rough times. Please take very good care of yourself, you don’t deserve to feel this way.

Hi, Bob…. Thanks for your kind words.. and for the encouragement.  I know I don’t deserve to feel this way… I just wish I could find a way to get rid of these feelings once and for all.  Yes, I keep reminding myself… it will get better! It always has before! Take care, MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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It’s never to late too change if change means getting rid of cognitive distortions.

How, Philip??  I’m really at a loss as to *how* to do this!  I have tried therapy and meds and relaxation techniques…. I wish that I could change the way I think of myself.  But as long as I can’t accept myself ….. how can I do that? I would. And how do you mean *either*? You haven’t tried yet and consequently nobody has *not* hired you. You are such a great human being to have around, you have so much understanding and empathy for others. The other day I showed Christie your lovely pics from France at the ASAPM gallery and she feels the same way as I (and so many others) do. It’s out there for *everybody* to see and you refuse to look in the mirror and see what we all see…. I wonder what the *danger* would be in being more confident.

I have been to some interviews…. and have sent many applications… I don’t know what the *danger* would be…. I guess I’m just afraid of life. :( The pity is that you don’t allow yourself to *realize your potential* (see Chip’s Gestalt thread) because you feel it just isn’t there. But it is. Abundantly.

I *know*, intellectually, that the potential is there… but I don’t know how to channel it… or how to find it… or use it… or whatever. Keep us posted.

I took the Provigil this morning…. I don’t think I’ll notice anything for a few days..*if* it makes a difference.  I’m okay… Just would be much better if I could find a job I *want*… that would allow me some freedom to travel … and that I would look forward to doing.  We shall see, I suppose… Thanks again, Philip.  You are a dear friend! MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Thanks, Dennis!  I keep trying to remind myself… this shall pass! MikeH

I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.     Sorry to hear it, Mike.  BTDT.     Exercise makes all the difference for me.  By all means just do it! This, too, shall pass.     Indeed it shall.  Always remember that.

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi Mike, I know how it is. A change of AD helped me a lot, plus reading Ellis, LM and forcing myself to keep occupied. Another thing that helps me a lot is to get my thoughts down in print, whether in a post, letter or email. It is kind of like once I have expressed them I can move on to the next thing. Take care, love Meryl

Have you ever kept a journal of your thoughts/feelings, Meryl? Did you find it helpful? I don’t think I have ever asked about your Christmas trip… how did it go? Take care, MikeH :) — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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sayin’: Perhaps the weather will warm up a bit soon and I can begin to ride.  It would be good therapy.

Heh — I’m looking out my window at a windswept, snow-covered cityscape in post-communist eastern Europe.  Looks pretty ugly to me. Harsh, flat light.  Sub-freezing weather and more on its way.  I expect to spend the next couple of days reading, fooling with the computer, playing Fish with my 5-y.o. daughter, and doing anything else I can to avoid going outside (*YOU* can go skiing, hiking, whatever in this weather).   When the sun shines, I’m fine.  When spring comes and I can get outside and run, I’m fine. There’s nothing wrong with me — it’s this GODDAMN WINTER!!!   — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  

        Sorry to hear it, Mike.  BTDT.           Exercise makes all the difference for me.  By all means just do it! This, too, shall pass.

        Indeed it shall.  Always remember that. Dennis — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Mike, of course I can’t say I know what you feel exactly, but I know what strong depression in general feels like.  If it helps any, I can empathize with you. The "things are going to get better, they have gotten better always before" as you said "this too shall pass"…. that is VERY important to me in rough times. Please take very good care of yourself, you don’t deserve to feel this way. bob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway?  The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. Take care, MikeH

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – *^&%$ I hate it when you’re depressed. Such a giving, loving man… I often think with you depression is clearly also a matter of low self-esteem whereas if I know anybody in the world who wouldn’t have to have self-esteem trouble it’s you. ((((((MikeY))))) You are so very kind, my friend. Low self-esteem?  Probably the lowest. It’s just a part of who I am.  We’ve discussed it many times… You probably know me better than just about anyone. I don’t think there will be much change at this late stage in my life.

It’s never to late too change if change means getting rid of cognitive distortions. I’m sure I’m probably catastrophizing a bit about the money.  But I need to find a job that pays something.  The part-time thing I’m doing is a wonderful place to work… great people.. no stress… but it’s also very little money.  :(  I’m panicking that I won’t find something… or that I’ll be forced to take something I really can’t handle just to bring in some money.  And how does one go about selling oneself in job interviews when one’s self-esteem is so low?  I’m reasonably intelligent…. why can’t I figure a way out of this situation in my life?  I wouldn’t hire me either… :(

I would. And how do you mean *either*? You haven’t tried yet and consequently nobody has *not* hired you. You are such a great human being to have around, you have so much understanding and empathy for others. The other day I showed Christie your lovely pics from France at the ASAPM gallery and she feels the same way as I (and so many others) do. It’s out there for *everybody* to see and you refuse to look in the mirror and see what we all see…. I wonder what the *danger* would be in being more confident. Sheesh… this has turned into a real pity party.

The pity is that you don’t allow yourself to *realize your potential* (see Chip’s Gestalt thread) because you feel it just isn’t there. But it is. Abundantly.   Sorry to rain on everyone.

It has been raining in Holland for weeks and weeks now, we can stand some more ;-)    Just glad to have a place to vent! Maybe the Provigil will help… will try it tomorrow…

Keep us posted. Philip The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sayin’: Perhaps the weather will warm up a bit soon and I can begin to ride.  It would be good therapy. Heh — I’m looking out my window at a windswept, snow-covered cityscape in post-communist eastern Europe.  Looks pretty ugly to me. Harsh, flat light.  Sub-freezing weather and more on its way.  I expect to spend the next couple of days reading, fooling with the computer, playing Fish with my 5-y.o. daughter, and doing anything else I can to avoid going outside (*YOU* can go skiing, hiking, whatever in this weather). When the sun shines, I’m fine.  When spring comes and I can get outside and run, I’m fine. There’s nothing wrong with me — it’s this GODDAMN WINTER!!!

Hi…. I don’t think I could handle a cold, snowy climate.  I visited some friends last year in early January in Massachusetts, and it snowed 18 inches while I was there for the week.  I loved it!!  I rarely see any snow at all here in Georgia.  But if I had to live with it all winter, I don’t know if I could handle it.  So I understand what you are saying.  I’m a warm weather person… the fewer clothes the better. Where in Eastern Europe??  I have a high school exchange student living with me right now… for this semester.  He is from Latvia.  He’s a great kid… and I think we will enjoy having him with us.  On the other hand, it’s one more mouth to feed, and a 17 year old boy can really eat! :P Take care…. MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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glad to hear thing work out well for you today , hope that does the trick for your depression  do you think there is another form of therapy or a different way of approaching your depression that might help you, some way you can find to better accept problems when they come up, I know its not easy and I am in the same boat with my anxiety and likely to be complaining about it in a future post, but I try to always look at those setbacks as moving forward Jim

Hi, Jim.. Thanks for sharing your thoughts… and for your kind words.  I really don’t know of another way to look at this.  I’ve been with my therapist for about 15 years.  He’s a great guy.  I *have* made progress… When I started seeing him, I had never been on an airplane, and it was a huge problem, as my wife is French and travelled every year to visit family.  With my therapist’s help, and meds, and relaxation techniques, and a clinic for fearful flyers, I flew for the first time at age 39.  At almost 53, I’ve crossed the Atlantic many times… and took my first flight *without family* last year… so *that* has been a huge accomplishment for me. The depression comes from many things in my life… not just the PD. Perhaps the PD actually stems from my inability to see and accept myself from an early age.  I’m not sure. In the fall of 02, I faced cancer.  I know.. I’m not the only one… it happens.  I had surgery, and have a very good prognosis.  Others are not so lucky.  But as a result of the surgery, some anatomical parts don’t work anymore… and I feel this huge *hole* in my life.  It’s very easy to say "Well, you are still alive… be thankful for that!"  I *am* thankful for that.  But I still have to find a way to deal with what is left … and it is all wrapped up into a lot of things that I’m just not comfortable talking about to others.  My therapist knows it all.. yes!  But there’s no easy answer.  It has to come from *within*…. it’s a matter of self-acceptance… and self-actualization…  and I don’t see any way that I could get to that point without jeopardizing so many things in my life. It’s a risk I just cannot take… I guess this sounds like a lot of mumbo-jumbo.  I’m sorry to be so vague. I’ve tried every AD known to man… except for the MAOIs.. I mean that *quite literally*… I’ve tried them all.  The *one* that works for me is Prozac, and I went back on it in December. I retired from my job last May… because I just could not face the work environment anymore.  I still feel like a failure because of that.  I *know* that I have talents… and people skills… But I don’t seem to be able to *see* them.  I knew that I would eventually need to find another job.  I have been looking…. I have had some interviews…. As of yet, I’ve found nothing.  I don’t keep the checkbook in my house….my wife does.  And I’m afraid to even ask how far down our savings have gone…. My retirement income is okay…. but I need a bit more to supplement it. I could go on and on.  I’m sorry this is so long.  Someone suggested that I keep a journal.  That is one thing I have not done.  I guess I’m afraid that writing about my thoughts in a journal might make me focus on them all the more.  And that might be a bad thing… rather than helpful.  I don’t know. Anyone here with depression kept a journal?  Did you find it helpful? I am my own worst enemy… always have been.  I break my heart at least 10 times a day.  Other people don’t do it.. *I* do it to myself.  I wish I were not so sensitive… Thanks for reading all this… and for allowing me to vent! MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Elise… Yes, exercise always helps.  Lately, I have not been going to the gym… honestly, just trying not to spend the money.  But I have some weights at home that were my son’s.. and I need to begin some sort of program.  I have a bike.  Perhaps the weather will warm up a bit soon and I can begin to ride.  It would be good therapy. As it happens, my therapist phoned me this evening *just to see how I was doing*.  He must be telepathic!!  He really is a good guy… and I have not seen him since way before our trip to France at Christmas!  He said he was calling to see if I was *still alive*, since he had not heard from me.  It makes me feel good that he would take the time to call and check on me.  I mentioned the Provigil to him, and he said it was a good idea…. to try half of the 200 mg tablet each morning.  He said if that did not pick me up a bit, I could go up to the whole tablet each day, but he thought the half would be enough since I was already taking the Prozac!! It’s worth a try!  Thanks to Chip for the idea… and thanks to my pdoc for calling so that I could ask his opinion.  This feels like my lucky day! :) Take care… Mike (who is putting off doing taxes! ugh!)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Mike, Sorry to hear you have been feeling depressed.  Yes, this too shall pass but maybe staying busy can keep you feeling better.  Have you tried exercising for that "weight on your shoulders".  After exercising I usually feel less stressed and more able to see things clearer.  Do you read, watch movies, have any close neighbors to get together with???? CAUTION:  Don’t work on your taxes, it wears the heck out of you…<g smiles, Elise I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway? The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass….

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Mike, Geez, that worked out extremely well for you…  Let us know how you do with the Provigil. smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Elise… Yes, exercise always helps.  Lately, I have not been going to the gym… honestly, just trying not to spend the money.  But I have some weights at home that were my son’s.. and I need to begin some sort of program.  I have a bike.  Perhaps the weather will warm up a bit soon and I can begin to ride.  It would be good therapy. As it happens, my therapist phoned me this evening *just to see how I was doing*.  He must be telepathic!!  He really is a good guy… and I have not seen him since way before our trip to France at Christmas!  He said he was calling to see if I was *still alive*, since he had not heard from me.  It makes me feel good that he would take the time to call and check on me.  I mentioned the Provigil to him, and he said it was a good idea…. to try half of the 200 mg tablet each morning.  He said if that did not pick me up a bit, I could go up to the whole tablet each day, but he thought the half would be enough since I was already taking the Prozac!! It’s worth a try!  Thanks to Chip for the idea… and thanks to my pdoc for calling so that I could ask his opinion.  This feels like my lucky day! :) Take care… Mike (who is putting off doing taxes! ugh!) Hi, Mike, Sorry to hear you have been feeling depressed.  Yes, this too shall pass but maybe staying busy can keep you feeling better.  Have you tried exercising for that "weight on your shoulders".  After exercising I usually feel less stressed and more able to see things clearer.  Do you read, watch movies, have any close neighbors to get together with???? CAUTION:  Don’t work on your taxes, it wears the heck out of you…<g smiles, Elise I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway? The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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*^&%$ I hate it when you’re depressed. Such a giving, loving man… I often think with you depression is clearly also a matter of low self-esteem whereas if I know anybody in the world who wouldn’t have to

have self-esteem trouble it’s you. ((((((MikeY)))))

You are so very kind, my friend. Low self-esteem?  Probably the lowest. It’s just a part of who I am.  We’ve discussed it many times… You probably know me better than just about anyone. I don’t think there will be much change at this late stage in my life. I’m sure I’m probably catastrophizing a bit about the money.  But I need to find a job that pays something.  The part-time thing I’m doing is a wonderful place to work… great people.. no stress… but it’s also very little money.  :(  I’m panicking that I won’t find something… or that I’ll be forced to take something I really can’t handle just to bring in some money.  And how does one go about selling oneself in job interviews when one’s self-esteem is so low?  I’m reasonably intelligent…. why can’t I figure a way out of this situation in my life?  I wouldn’t hire me either… :( Sheesh… this has turned into a real pity party.  Sorry to rain on everyone.  Just glad to have a place to vent! Maybe the Provigil will help… will try it tomorrow… Take care, MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I understand how it can be hard to spend money when there isn`t much there to begin with. However, you are precious and worth the money it would take to make you feel better. If you had a serious physical problem and needed medical attention, would you put off seeking help even if you were low on money? I think our mental health gets put on the back burner too often in situations like this. Maybe you could explain your situation to your pdoc and he could work with you.

Oh, he would work with me, Jackie… it’s the kind of person he is.  But I would never ask him to do that.  It’s the kind of person *I* am.  Hopefully, the meds can help. Thanks for your kind words of support. Hugs back, MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.

Ahhh, Mike… I am so sorry to hear this. It’s just an awful condition. Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.

Yes. But fortunately, many of us here have BTDT and understand how you feel. This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass….

Good mantra! Sending you cheerful vibes… hope you’re on the upswing soon. xxoo Anne — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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glad to hear thing work out well for you today , hope that does the trick for your depression  do you think there is another form of therapy or a different way of approaching your depression that might help you, some way you can find to better accept problems when they come up, I know its not easy and I am in the same boat with my anxiety and likely to be complaining about it in a future post, but I try to always look at those setbacks as moving forward Jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway?  The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. Take care, MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi Mike, I know how it is. A change of AD helped me a lot, plus reading Ellis, LM and forcing myself to keep occupied. Another thing that helps me a lot is to get my thoughts down in print, whether in a post, letter or email. It is kind of like once I have expressed them I can move on to the next thing. Take care, love Meryl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway?  The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. Take care, MikeH

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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:I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my :P rozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this :*weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. :I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is :coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway?  The :same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will :be okay this time, too! I understand how it can be hard to spend money when there isn`t much there to begin with. However, you are precious and worth the money it would take to make you feel better. If you had a serious physical problem and needed medical attention, would you put off seeking help even if you were low on money? I think our mental health gets put on the back burner too often in situations like this. Maybe you could explain your situation to your pdoc and he could work with you. :Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has :never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a :moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! While it`s great that keeping busy and occupied helps, i`m sure it would be nice to be able to rest in peace without sinking into a dark hole. :This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall :pass…. It sure will! Hang in there. {{{{{Mike}}}}} Jackie ~*~Would you respect my mind more if it bounced gently when I walked?~*~ — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Mike, Sorry to hear you have been feeling depressed.  Yes, this too shall pass but maybe staying busy can keep you feeling better.  Have you tried exercising for that "weight on your shoulders".  After exercising I usually feel less stressed and more able to see things clearer.  Do you read, watch movies, have any close neighbors to get together with???? CAUTION:  Don’t work on your taxes, it wears the heck out of you…<g smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway?  The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. Take care, MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Elise… Yes, exercise always helps.  Lately, I have not been going to the gym… honestly, just trying not to spend the money.  But I have some weights at home that were my son’s.. and I need to begin some sort of program.  I have a bike.  Perhaps the weather will warm up a bit soon and I can begin to ride.  It would be good therapy.

Is money really so tight, Mike? Or are you also catastrophizing about it? Money problems could be a factor in your depression as well. As it happens, my therapist phoned me this evening *just to see how I was doing*.  He must be telepathic!!

Wow! That *is* amazing!   He really is a good guy… and I have not seen him since way before our trip to France at Christmas!  He said he was calling to see if I was *still alive*, since he had not heard from me.  It makes me feel good that he would take the time to call and check on me.

He’s a great guy.   I mentioned the Provigil to him, and he said it was a good idea…. to try half of the 200 mg tablet each morning.  He said if that did not pick me up a bit, I could go up to the whole tablet each day, but he thought the half would be enough since I was already taking the Prozac!! It’s worth a try!  Thanks to Chip for the idea… and thanks to my pdoc for calling so that I could ask his opinion.  This feels like my lucky day! :)

Yep! Please keep us updated. Take care… Mike (who is putting off doing taxes! ugh!)

It’s a very ugly five-letter word ;-) Philip (from the Netherlands where we pay the highest taxes in the world) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Mike, Sorry to hear you have been feeling depressed.  Yes, this too shall pass but maybe staying busy can keep you feeling better.  Have you tried exercising for that "weight on your shoulders".  After exercising I usually feel less stressed and more able to see things clearer.  Do you read, watch movies, have any close neighbors to get together with???? CAUTION:  Don’t work on your taxes, it wears the heck out of you…<g smiles, Elise I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway? The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway? Hi Mike, He might adjust your dose of Prozac, or maybe add another med to augment it, like a mild stimulant like Provigil, which could have you feeling better in a day or two. It might have you completely free of depression in a day or two. That was my experience when my psychiatrist added Cylert to my Zoloft. Zero depression in about 1 to 2 days. Chip

Not a bad thought by any means. It wouldn;t be recommendable for everyone I suppose, but as far as I know you (which is quite far by now ;-) I have a hunch that Chip may have hit the nail right on its head. So: please do consult Henry! Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. Take care, MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway?  The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too!

Did something happen in your life, Mike? I am sorry about your depression, I was so glad Prozac was helping you again. I think you would do good to see Henry after all, he always has a very positive infliuence on you. If you *really* can’t afford a session I could send you some Euros (seriously). Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!!

As Margrove uses to say: "Depression hates a moving target." The trick now seems to be how to sort of "keep the spirit moving" while the body rests. This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass….

Yes, it will. What dose of Prozac are you currently on? *^&%$ I hate it when you’re depressed. Such a giving, loving man… I often think with you depression is clearly also a matter of low self-esteem whereas if I know anybody in the world who wouldn’t have to have self-esteem trouble it’s you. ((((((MikeY))))) Philip — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway? Hi Mike, He might adjust your dose of Prozac, or maybe add another med to augment it, like a mild stimulant like Provigil, which could have you feeling better in a day or two. It might have you completely free of depression in a day or two. That was my experience when my psychiatrist added Cylert to my Zoloft. Zero depression in about 1 to 2 days.

Thanks, Chip…. Actually, I have some Provigil that the doc tried in conjunction with my tricyclic I was taking back in the fall.  I changed back to the Prozac in December, and I left off the Provigil.  I may try the Provigil for a few days to see if it really does help.  It did give me a bit more energy and a *boost* back then when I was feeling so washed out from the tricyclic. Take care.. MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway?

Hi Mike, He might adjust your dose of Prozac, or maybe add another med to augment it, like a mild stimulant like Provigil, which could have you feeling better in a day or two. It might have you completely free of depression in a day or two. That was my experience when my psychiatrist added Cylert to my Zoloft. Zero depression in about 1 to 2 days. Chip The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. Take care, MikeH

– The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I have been soooooooo *depressed* the past few days.  I’m still on my Prozac, and it seemed to be helping so much.  But it’s as if I have this *weight* on my shoulders the past few days that just will *not* go away. I really need to talk to my pdoc… but money is a problem.  Not much is coming in, so I hate to spend any.  And what will he tell me, anyway?  The same thing … this has happened before and I have come out of it.  I will be okay this time, too! Geez…. it would be so hard to explain this *feeling* to someone who has never experienced it.  When I’m busy and occupied, I’m fine.  When I have a moment to sit and rest and *think*, kapow!! This, too, shall pass….. this, too, shall pass… this, too, shall pass…. Take care, MikeH — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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