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I agree strongly with Diane about getting your son to see a good therapist. A good one can probably determine if he really is hearing voices and having pre-schizophrenia type symptoms or not. They can also refer you for further treatment (medication) if necessary. My wife is a great child psychologist (of course I’m a little biased). Too bad you’re not in my area or I could hook you up. Diane is right in that getting the right psychologist is very important. Take care, Frank. Diane A. <sheilana…@webtv.net> wrote in message news:[email protected]… dear donna i am so sorry that you son has hurt himself i think you should listen carefully to what limefire says–the rest of us here don’t have the same experience in this area because we became sick during teens or later which is more typical. childhood sz is a different kind of sz just as paranoid sz is different from sz-affective–etc etc etc. usually it is pretty severe and may not really respond to medication as other kinds would—when they are in the labs coming up with the pills they are thinking about how to treat adult onset sz. one thing i would think about is that your son is only 8 years old. when i was 8 i still believed in santa claus. it is really common for children who are perfectly normal to have imaginary friends at this time. maybe you could talk to him and find out how her experiences these voices. is it similar to a dream. is it similar to make believe. is it similar to some one actually being in the room with you and talking to you. try to come up with as many examples as you an think of. then i would try to find out exactly how similar–exactly like it a little like it—maybe use a scale from one to ten or someting. when you are a child it is easy to imagine things as wish fulfillment. also it can be easy for a kid to get rid of guilt by blaming something they are not proud of on imaginary voices or friends telling them to do it. maybe your kid doesn’t want to take those damn tests anymore. it is very serious that he has tried to hurt himself. this is not specifically a symptom of sz. is your kid depressed? is he unpopular at school? is he trying to cope with some change in his life (move, death in the family, new sibling, divorse–etc.) some reasons people hurt themselves is that they have not been treated well and confuse the feelings of pleasure and pain. some people feel so much inner emotional pain that causing physical pain is a release for them. there are different kinds of huring yourself—cutting yourself can be a sign of depression—head banging or punching yourself can be a sign of intense frustration–and the inabiltiy to express yourself. if it was me, and this is just my oppinion,—i would try therapy before starting my kid on medication. medication has been a life saver for most of us here. but they are also very dangerous drugs. starting him on pills at such a young age–with out find out if it is entirely nessesary could be very bad for him. it could lead to a life time of being labled schizophrenia. it could lead him to think drugs are ok and make it easier for him to experiment in his teens–"ive been on drugs all my life–whats a little crack?" i would hate for this kid to be misdiagnosed early on and spend the rest of his life taking medication after medication that he may not really need. these medications can have side affects that can mimic mental illness. there is such a thing as neuroleptic poisoning—this is when antipsychotics can actually cause some one who is not psychotic to hallucinate and become violent. also the side affects of antipsychotics look exactly like the "negative symptoms" of schizophrenia. my advise is to find a sensitve a nuturing child therapist. don’t just go to the first one you find. visit a lot of them and ask your son for imput on who he would like to see. ask him if he would be more comfortable with a male or female therapist–a young one or and older one. the right therapist is very very important. it is a sad sad facts that a lot (i hope not the majority, but i afraid it is) suck big time. either they are no help or they actually are bad therapists and do harm. i also think you must be under a lot of stress and are probably scared out of your mind right now (i would be).. go to the library–take out every book you find on every mental illness and treatment you can find. being well informed can make all the difference in the world. doctors do may mistakes. impowerment is important and knowlege is impowerment. also you might consider getting a therapist for yourself also. yes you should meet regularly with your son’s therapist but also get a therapist of your own. you need to talk about how this is effecting you–let his therapist focus on him–and get one for your own issues. your staying healthy emotionally can only have a positive effect on your sons health. i think the important thing is to not jump into the first diagnosis your son gets. he is only eight years old. this may be merely an emotional problem and not a mental illness. i say merely not because emotional prolems are any less painful but because they are often temporary especially if you get the right kind of help. a misdiagnosis of mental ilness could ruin your life. mental illness isn’t curable. and if it assumed early on that your son’s problems won’t go away then they most likely won’t. he will be lable metally ill and for the rest of his life teachers, doctors will treat him that way. if people expect you to act crazy you probably will. plus being labled mentally ill usually sparks many years of self hatred, self doubt and confusion that will pop up every once in awhile even when you think you have worked through it. well i hope that my advise can help you. and know that you have a home here. best of luck–and love your boy like feirce right now. love can be miraculous as a healer. i would like to pray for you and your son. please let me know if this is ok. i am not christian but i pray to the virgin mary as a goddess, i can also address my prayers to the universal power of love if your are more comfortable with that. please let me know. best wishes diane ————————————————————————— —
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Hi Donna, I recall as a child having a very mean, reptitive thought in my head that was just bizarre – it was spooky and other people I have spoke to have experienced it as well. The best way to describe it is "metallic, grinding." It was a word or a phrase that was repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over. I don’t recall what it said, though. I didn’t like it and it freaked me out and I told my mother while it was going on and she said there was nothing that could be done about it. She acted like she knew of it. Maybe it’s a normal thing. Other than that, there were the few times I saw into the future. I suppose that pretty much sums up any of the sz-like weird things that happened in my childhood. Quite honestly, my best advice is to have faith in Jesus Christ and just press on. Trust the written Word more than anything else. He is the sole source of rejuvination and healing. You will note that when those blind people came to Him and asked for Him to let them see, Jesus asked if they believed He was able to do this – they said Yes, and Jesus replied, "According to your faith let it be done." And they walked away seeing. And there was a leper who said to the Lord, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean." To which Jesus replied, "I am willing; be clean." This says quite a bit about God. I think difficult things happen to people in this world so that we’ll look closer to the Lord and lean upon His bosom in the same way John did at the Last Supper; "We come to know and rely on the love God has for us." I think about that time Jesus was walking on the water and Peter saw Him and wanted to walk on the water, too. And Jesus granted Peter this, and Peter walked to the Lord on the water. But then it got windy or something and Peter grew afraid and started to sink. I can see Peter’s face now looking to Jesus; "Help me Lord," he said. Jesus, of course, took hold of Peter and held him safely in His arms and gave a lesson. "You of little faith, why did you doubt?" Here, we see how fear attacked faith. But, regardless, Jesus is the Lord – and Jesus had no intention whatsoever of losing Peter to *anything*. And, of course, Jesus did not lose Peter at all. Tradition says that Peter was martyred upside down on a cross because Peter said that he did not deserve to crucified normally like Jesus. I am very thankful for this lesson. Love, Beth In article <20000409012019.00842.00000…@ng-ce1.aol.com>, donna…@aol.com (Donna439) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My son is age 8 and just got out of the hospital for hearing voices and hurting > himself. Monday he starts a battery of psychological tests. They are looking > for sz. My question if any one would please answer it is when did your > symptoms start. When did you start hearing voices if you did, and what did > they say. He is real vague about the voices. Says they are kids voices and > they tell him to stop doing his timed math tests. He also has panic attacks, > racing thoughts. Did any of you have this as a child and would you explain > what it was like for you and what you were thinking. > A loving mother, > Donna
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dear donna i am so sorry that you son has hurt himself i think you should listen carefully to what limefire says–the rest of us here don’t have the same experience in this area because we became sick during teens or later which is more typical. childhood sz is a different kind of sz just as paranoid sz is different from sz-affective–etc etc etc. usually it is pretty severe and may not really respond to medication as other kinds would—when they are in the labs coming up with the pills they are thinking about how to treat adult onset sz. one thing i would think about is that your son is only 8 years old. when i was 8 i still believed in santa claus. it is really common for children who are perfectly normal to have imaginary friends at this time. maybe you could talk to him and find out how her experiences these voices. is it similar to a dream. is it similar to make believe. is it similar to some one actually being in the room with you and talking to you. try to come up with as many examples as you an think of. then i would try to find out exactly how similar–exactly like it a little like it—maybe use a scale from one to ten or someting. when you are a child it is easy to imagine things as wish fulfillment. also it can be easy for a kid to get rid of guilt by blaming something they are not proud of on imaginary voices or friends telling them to do it. maybe your kid doesn’t want to take those damn tests anymore. it is very serious that he has tried to hurt himself. this is not specifically a symptom of sz. is your kid depressed? is he unpopular at school? is he trying to cope with some change in his life (move, death in the family, new sibling, divorse–etc.) some reasons people hurt themselves is that they have not been treated well and confuse the feelings of pleasure and pain. some people feel so much inner emotional pain that causing physical pain is a release for them. there are different kinds of huring yourself—cutting yourself can be a sign of depression—head banging or punching yourself can be a sign of intense frustration–and the inabiltiy to express yourself. if it was me, and this is just my oppinion,—i would try therapy before starting my kid on medication. medication has been a life saver for most of us here. but they are also very dangerous drugs. starting him on pills at such a young age–with out find out if it is entirely nessesary could be very bad for him. it could lead to a life time of being labled schizophrenia. it could lead him to think drugs are ok and make it easier for him to experiment in his teens–"ive been on drugs all my life–whats a little crack?" i would hate for this kid to be misdiagnosed early on and spend the rest of his life taking medication after medication that he may not really need. these medications can have side affects that can mimic mental illness. there is such a thing as neuroleptic poisoning—this is when antipsychotics can actually cause some one who is not psychotic to hallucinate and become violent. also the side affects of antipsychotics look exactly like the "negative symptoms" of schizophrenia. my advise is to find a sensitve a nuturing child therapist. don’t just go to the first one you find. visit a lot of them and ask your son for imput on who he would like to see. ask him if he would be more comfortable with a male or female therapist–a young one or and older one. the right therapist is very very important. it is a sad sad facts that a lot (i hope not the majority, but i afraid it is) suck big time. either they are no help or they actually are bad therapists and do harm. i also think you must be under a lot of stress and are probably scared out of your mind right now (i would be).. go to the library–take out every book you find on every mental illness and treatment you can find. being well informed can make all the difference in the world. doctors do may mistakes. impowerment is important and knowlege is impowerment. also you might consider getting a therapist for yourself also. yes you should meet regularly with your son’s therapist but also get a therapist of your own. you need to talk about how this is effecting you–let his therapist focus on him–and get one for your own issues. your staying healthy emotionally can only have a positive effect on your sons health. i think the important thing is to not jump into the first diagnosis your son gets. he is only eight years old. this may be merely an emotional problem and not a mental illness. i say merely not because emotional prolems are any less painful but because they are often temporary especially if you get the right kind of help. a misdiagnosis of mental ilness could ruin your life. mental illness isn’t curable. and if it assumed early on that your son’s problems won’t go away then they most likely won’t. he will be lable metally ill and for the rest of his life teachers, doctors will treat him that way. if people expect you to act crazy you probably will. plus being labled mentally ill usually sparks many years of self hatred, self doubt and confusion that will pop up every once in awhile even when you think you have worked through it. well i hope that my advise can help you. and know that you have a home here. best of luck–and love your boy like feirce right now. love can be miraculous as a healer. i would like to pray for you and your son. please let me know if this is ok. i am not christian but i pray to the virgin mary as a goddess, i can also address my prayers to the universal power of love if your are more comfortable with that. please let me know. best wishes diane
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hi Donna, i am 53 now but when i think back mostly i remember fear at age 8. i stayed hiding in my room as much as possible, i avoided neighborhood children and i was an only child, left alone with mentally ill grandparents most of the time who i hid from too. just give him lots of love and don’t let him isolate. you know, plenty of safe time with you and father. best wishes, lny
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I have only two instances in my life, where I heard voices. The first being, when I was eight years old, the second, when I was fourteen. My parents are both diagnosed schizophrenics and were in and out of hospitals many times when I was growing up. (they are still on medication and have been fine for many years now) I suppose this was the reason for the hallucinations. I will try to explain my experience, but it is very difficult, so please bear with me. I feel for you and your son. It wasn’t so much what the voices were saying, it was more their relentlessness and I would do or say anything, to make them stop. It’s not like someone standing next to you, shouting at you, because they’re inside of you. I mean it actually feels like you have crowd of people inside of you, pushing, pulling, wanting, demanding and so you can’t just walk away. I felt this tightness in my chest, and I was panting for breath. I had tears streaming down my face. All I could think of, was this wasn’t supposed to be happening. I just knew these things weren’t real. Yes I could hear voices, but I kept telling myself they weren’t real. I just had to hold on. I thought that my head would explode. I just had to keep holding on and they would pass. Suddenly I felt this release in my body, the tightness in my chest had gone and I could breathe properly. My tears had stopped and I knew that whatever it was, had left me. I then calmly went to bed. (i know that sounds weird) I don’t know how long these episodes went on for and I don’t know if it’s the same for others. I have never been able to discuss this in detail before. My memories of it are so crystal clear and I can tell you that I have never experienced such fear, since. I hope this makes sense. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:55:01 -0700, cloudbusting <thekickinsideNOthS…@mailcity.com.invalid> posted: > Suddenly I felt this release in my body, the tightness in my > chest had gone and I could breathe properly. My tears had > stopped and I knew that whatever it was, had left me. I then > calmly went to bed. (i know that sounds weird)
I’ve experieneced all the same sensations you speak of, but I don’t hear the voices. I can’t really even pinpoint what stresses me out. It’s not really my thoughts, although I can feel changes depending on what I think about, how I think about things. It seems that I typically start feeling stressed when I jump from one thought to the next too quickly, like never fully digesting one thought before moving on to the next. The thoughts are connected to each other, even if only in an abstract way that only I can understand. Anyway, when I realize I’m jumping around in my thoughts, I just stop doing it. The sensation of anxiety then jumps a little, peaks, then subsides. There’s nothing wrong with the things I think about, yet at the same time, even though I don’t think about consequences, it’s as if I’m suffering in some way. I can’t think of any reason why I shouldn’t think about one thing or another. It doesn’t enter my mind. Yet still, if I, for example, imagine myself riding down the street on a bicycle, I start to feel like I’m choking. My chest tightens up. Then I decide to throw it out of my mind. Oddly enough, right after I do that, the guy on the movie I’m watching ("Viva Knievel") and in perfect timing says, "Just dismiss him from your mind." Just to make sure I wasn’t hearing voices, I backed the movie up and listened again. Indeed that was what he said. Just before that he’d said, "I can handle that." Jeez, I get ques like that from TV all the time, but it’s never telling me what to do. It’s always trailing behind my own thoughts, never scaring me. Hell, I don’t even expect it. It’s more like pleasant surprises throughout the day. I think of something, then some guy on the TV says something and without even looking for connections, neurons just fire in my mind making the connection automagically. It usually makes me smile even roll my eyes sometimes as if to think, "How could it be so easy?" I know that if I quiet my mind I will physically feel very relaxed, like I’m floating in zero gravity, but without the blood rush to the torso. It happens relatively fast. I slow my thinking then I sort of start to forget everything, even where I’m at. Then I realize I’m relaxed. Oddly, it’s easier to do when the TV’s going, or when I have something like "The News from Lake Wobegon" playing. Something with talking. Music doesn’t work so well, even with vocals, unless I first fall into a light sleep then wake up. But television (if I turn it on while in bed, then close my eyes to go to sleep) or storytellers on tape distract my thoughts and I can physically relax. It’s much harder to relax sometimes in dead silence. My mind wanders all over the place and I get stressed out. It all reminds me that what I want to do most is empty my mind totally so I won’t have to think at all. It feels good not to think. It’s quiet and peaceful. Involuntary
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I’d like to thank you all for your replies. This is so scary for me and upsetting that my son is so scared. God BLess you all, Donna
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Dear Frank, I would love to read your letter. I want to know what I am dealing with. YOu have my E-mail address Thanks, and God Bless Donna
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Donna439 schrieb: > My son is age 8 and just got out of the hospital for hearing voices and hurting > himself. Monday he starts a battery of psychological tests. They are looking > for sz. My question if any one would please answer it is when did your > symptoms start. When did you start hearing voices if you did, and what did > they say. He is real vague about the voices. Says they are kids voices and > they tell him to stop doing his timed math tests. He also has panic attacks, > racing thoughts. Did any of you have this as a child and would you explain > what it was like for you and what you were thinking. > A loving mother, > Donna
Hallo Donna, With me it started when I was in adult age, but I think when it starts people often have severe problems in their live. That mustn
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