Depression Learning

Carrying on and on and on!

Question:

[snip] I have made the thought that you could be quite depressed yourself, RGB, but attacking another depressed person and turning an entire support group against someone is NOT a constructive form of therapy. Maybe for youself, but not for me.

For the record, Stephanie, Mark (RGB) has *not* managed to turn the entire group against you.  I think you should still post here.  Just take your flames to ASDF, which is the proper place for them. Okay?  Pour out your despair here.  We’ll do what we can to help.  Sometimes just talking about it helps. Bluebird

Response:

I can hear your pain. I can feel your anger. I can sense your loneliness, and feelings of betrayal. Depression rides a very thick core of betrayal. We come to expect it of ourselves, and we come to expect it of those who tire of our incapacity and leave when we most need them. We know the evil of envy yet covet the peace that others seem to take for granted. We secretly despise the calm and peaceful majority yet long to be where they are. Spite requires energy, and spite is fecund. It is in itself, its own fertile soil for rebreeding in endless energy drainning recursions. The path to recovery really lies in kindness, because it is through acts of kindness that we make contact with our inner strength and retrieve a little of our lost dignity. We are survivors all, and surviving takes strength and endurance. Spite dissipates energy, giving absorbs it. Save your strength. Life can be long, and the personal suffering from depression will easily outlast even the most overwhelming gratification spite can provide.

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Ok I made a post trying to use deja news.. hmm we’ll see if it gets here.. Well aren’t you tired of whining and crying to my ISP about what *you* have personally interperted from my posts of depression and anger?? I’m sure my ISP would get tired of hearing it by now. I hope nothing happens.. Lest I called, they told me not to worry too much because it’s quite common for people on computers to write in stuff, make up things and whine to them about a webtv user… So I take it they don’t put too much weight on what you say. And I can always call back if anything should happen.. But aren’t you just a litle tired of it?? Or do you like it that almost everyone in the group is kissing your butt and "Ohh poor baby, ohh *kiss butt* *kiss butt* ohh poor poor RGB and Albundy *kiss butt* Ohh Stephanie’s such a terrible terrible person, so we should make her as depressed and miserable as possible, maybe if she lost contact with her friends we can really drive her crazy *kiss butt*" You just have absolutely no thought or consideration to the level of depression and anxiety I have. No thought or consideration to the fact that I do have friends that support me that I can email any time I need to. I have made the thought that you could be quite depressed yourself, RGB, but attacking another depressed person and turning an entire support group against someone is NOT a constructive form of therapy. Maybe for youself, but not for me. I wish that for just one day, that those here critisizing the hell out of me could feel my pain as they have lived my life for themselves… Because i can guarantee, I beleive that if you take the happiest person on earth and throw them in to my life and feelings, they’d never survive a day of the hurt and despair. So those making me out to be some monster just have absolutely no consideration for anything, and this carrying on and on with exaggerated threat stories is way more inmature than anything I could ever do or say. Once again, wishing I had audio on this… .so you could *hear* the way I put things, hard to type emotions… But really, this "waaahhhh waaaahhhh someones gonna kill me, wwaaaahhhhh waaaaaahhhh i need my bottle waaahhhh" is getting truely old. I think alt.support.depression is a compleetly inappropriate name. Because you sure make this place feel like alt.increase.depression. /stephanie

Response:

Well aren’t you tired of whining and crying to my ISP about what *you* have personally interperted from my posts of depression and anger?? I’m sure my ISP would get tired of hearing it by now.

Actually, no one has been saying they were reporting to your ISP anymore….we have moved on to a little debate and it hardly has to do with you personally. Or do you like it that almost everyone in the group is kissing your butt and "Ohh poor baby, ohh *kiss butt* *kiss butt* ohh poor poor RGB and Albundy *kiss butt* Ohh Stephanie’s such a terrible terrible person,

Again, this has nothing to do with you any longer…we are debating certain issues that arose from your posts.  Just because people don’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are "kissing" someone else’s ass. You just have absolutely no thought or consideration to the level of depression and anxiety I have. No thought or consideration to the fact that I do have friends that support me that I can email any time I need to.

Quick question then…….Why so defensive? And why continue to post here if it isn’t something you want?  You keep saying how this group sucks so badly yet you are obviously still interested. Why not just face the music, accept responsibility rather than blame everyone and talk like everyone else does without getting so defensive and aggressive? I have made the thought that you could be quite depressed yourself, RGB,

Well, that’s probably why he posts here…..doncha think? and turning an entire support group against someone is NOT a constructive form of therapy.

RGB does not have the "power" or "control" to turn anyone against anyone else. This is another example of placing blame without taking responsibility….we are all able to form our own decisions based on the evidence presented.  Just because it doesn’t agree with you, you choose to blame it on RGB? I wish that for just one day, that those here critisizing the hell out of me could feel my pain as they have lived my life for themselves…

STOP PLAYING VICTIM! Because i can guarantee, I beleive that if you take the happiest person on earth and throw them in to my life and feelings, they’d never survive a day of the hurt and despair.

Good, then you *are* surviving. I think alt.support.depression is a compleetly inappropriate name. Because you sure make this place feel like alt.increase.depression.

Well, that’s the way we are and quite frankly this manner of debate and discussion is pretty damn healthy.  Most of the people involved has been able to debate this without name-calling or verbal abuse and for this group that is pretty friggin impressive! Nik "I want to believe"……The X-Files ICQ # 7859124

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Well aren’t you tired of whining and crying to my ISP about what *you* have personally interperted from my posts of depression and anger?? I’m sure my ISP would get tired of hearing it by now.

Stephanie, no one is saying anything now {that I am aware of} to your ISP I hope nothing happens.. Lest I called, they told me not to worry too much because it’s quite common for people on computers to write in stuff, make up things and whine to them about a webtv user… So I take it they don’t put too much weight on what you say. And I can always call back if anything should happen..

Good. I am glad they told you that. Now you can quit worrying about it. <small part snipped Stephanie’s such a terrible terrible person, so we should make her as depressed and miserable as possible, maybe if she lost contact with her friends we can really drive her crazy *kiss butt*"

Stephanie, no one here is trying to do that. You are misinterpreting things here. You are seeing them through your own anger.. You just have absolutely no thought or consideration to the level of depression and anxiety I have. No thought or consideration to the fact that I do have friends that support me that I can email any time I need to.

I am really glad you have friends that support you Stephanie…as I do. You have as much right as anyone else here to post…as I do. You just do not have the right to threaten physical harm to anyone…in real life or here…and this is true for me too. I have made the thought that you could be quite depressed yourself, RGB,

Ummmm…might have something to do with why he posts here, you think ? <g <snipped I wish that for just one day, that those here critisizing the hell out of me could feel my pain as they have lived my life for themselves… Because i can guarantee, I beleive that if you take the happiest person on earth and throw them in to my life and feelings, they’d never survive a day of the hurt and despair.

I understand what you are saying here, Stephanie, and I am not going to tell you about the hurt and despair that I too have felt. At one time I would have picked up this package of guilt you are trying to dump on me and everyone who is reading what you wrote. I am not picking it up. I am sorry you are feeling this way…but it is NOT my fault. And it is not the fault of anyone posting here.  And neither  *I* nor anyone else here can help you unless and until you stop blaming us. So those making me out to be some monster just have absolutely no consideration for anything, and this carrying on and on with exaggerated threat stories is way more inmature than anything I could ever do or say.

I certainly dont think you are a monster. I think you are a hurting person who is lashing out because she knows no other way of dealing with the panic and the despair and the loneliness. Once again, wishing I had audio on this… .so you could *hear* the way I put things, hard to type emotions…

Yes, I wish that too…you are right. But really, this "waaahhhh waaaahhhh someones gonna kill me, wwaaaahhhhh waaaaaahhhh i need my bottle waaahhhh" is getting truely old.

As is this projecting your feelings onto us…. I think alt.support.depression is a compleetly inappropriate name. Because you sure make this place feel like alt.increase.depression.

I am sorry you feel this way Stephanie… This can be a place that helps…if you are open to being helped.  What *I* do here is take what helps me, and let the rest go by…. Patricia who really DOES like Stephanie Patricia Dance as if no one is watching; love as if you have never been hurt

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