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ASD is too freaking big

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This has probably come up before, but I was thinking it might not be a bad idea to split up the NG… A year or so ago, when I first started posting, there were only about 200 posts a day or so. Maybe 300 on a real busy day, and 100 or so on the weekends. Now, my server is showing like 500-600 posts/day.  And I have a *shitload* of people in my killfile, to boot.  It’s getting overwhelming! I want to keep reading/posting to ASD, but there are just too many posts any more.  I don’t have enough time to read them all,although I wish I could. It’s unbelievable, the amount of volume here…ASD must have gotten some publicity or something, because right before the holidays the volume of posts has doubled, and has been growing ever since. Has depression become trendy?  Or do we just rule the world? (I picture the masses of us unwashed, pajama-wearing Nutella-eating freaks dressed in black, listening to NIN, not leaving our houses ever, just posting away on our PC’s, and–well–it just staggers the mind!  Ya know?) What do you guys think?  About a split? No flames please, I’m just trying to figure out a feasible way to keep posting/reading the NG without going mad (she says, grinning maniacally). cindi fukked in the head — Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies. "Great pate, but I really gotta motor if I want to catch this funeral" __Heathers__

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If we got rid of the Breggin threads we could cut the traffic by about a third right there. *evil grin* —                         Doris Ostendorf                   http://qlink.queensu.ca/~3do5/ "Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you."                                                   C.G. Jung

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This is probally a good idea, but I see us bouncing from group to group trying to keep up with everyone. Or worse yet we’d might start <shudder crossposting. Julia –"This wasn’t in the brouchure."–Billy Crystal

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How would you split it up?  A take this group and B take this group?  What happens to the people who never get chosen for anything?  What IMO this n.g. needs is some kind of safeguard to keep people from selling on it. And a way for people to kill threads they are not interested in on their computers.   If it did get split up, I guess you could do something like the people who cut and those that don’t.  Or maybe have a med support group and one where people don’t take meds.  Otherwise, I think it would be pretty difficult. take care, Cyndi When God sends the dawn,  He sends it for all.   –  Cervantes

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This has probably come up before, but I was thinking it might not be a bad idea to split up the NG… (snip) I want to keep reading/posting to ASD, but there are just too many posts any more.  I don’t have enough time to read them all,although I wish I could. It’s unbelievable, the amount of volume here…ASD must have gotten some publicity or something, because right before the holidays the volume of posts has doubled, and has been growing ever since. (snip) What do you guys think?  About a split? No flames please, I’m just trying to figure out a feasible way to keep posting/reading the NG without going mad (she says, grinning maniacally).

how about alt.support.depression-lite ? where the depressed elite meet to be sweet (or sarcastic,.. or to discuss film, nutella, sex with the self and others, basically to talk about anything besides treatment and technical matters.) selene

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Now, my server is showing like 500-600 posts/day.  And I have a *shitload* of people in my killfile, to boot.  It’s getting overwhelming! I want to keep reading/posting to ASD, but there are just too many posts any more.  I don’t have enough time to read them all,although I wish I could. It’s unbelievable, the amount of volume here…

I agree with you that the traffic is hard to handle. I *want* to read as many posts as I can and respond to them, but just looking at them is overwhelming and I can’t be as supportive as I want to be as a result. — http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dina00/ El Gendi Travel: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dina00/travelagency/intro.html Tours, Air, Hotels, Car Rentals, Amtrak Tickets, and just about everything else. Europe page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dina00/eur.html Pictures, anecdotes, you name it, it’s on my site somewhere.

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This is probally a good idea, but I see us bouncing from group to group trying to keep up with everyone. Or worse yet we’d might start <shudder crossposting. Julia –"This wasn’t in the brouchure."–Billy Crystal

Now that is a scary thought.  Both would grow to be larger than the original before long. —

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This has probably come up before, but I was thinking it might not be a bad idea to split up the NG… A year or so ago, when I first started posting, there were only about 200 posts a day or so. Maybe 300 on a real busy day, and 100 or so on the weekends. Now, my server is showing like 500-600 posts/day.  And I have a *shitload* of people in my killfile, to boot.  It’s getting overwhelming!

<pout I’ve been lamenting the fact that there are only 300 (on MY server). I seem to get through them all pretty quickly and then I’m sad when there’s nothing more to read. I want to keep reading/posting to ASD, but there are just too many posts any more.  I don’t have enough time to read them all,although I wish I could. It’s unbelievable, the amount of volume here…ASD must have gotten some publicity or something, because right before the holidays the volume of posts has doubled, and has been growing ever since.

I think the internet in general is getting bigger and bigger. Has depression become trendy?  Or do we just rule the world? (I picture the masses of us unwashed, pajama-wearing Nutella-eating freaks dressed in black, listening to NIN, not leaving our houses ever, just posting away on our PC’s, and–well–it just staggers the mind!  Ya know?)

HEHEHEHEHEHE What do you guys think?  About a split? No flames please, I’m just trying to figure out a feasible way to keep posting/reading the NG without going mad (she says, grinning maniacally).

Although, I would be happy to see something like alt.support.depression.medication. I never read those.  Almost all those words are in my killfile.  I have nothing to add to those threads and am not particularly interested in cluttering up my mind with little bits about medications that I haven’t heard about.  Nothing against anyone here.  I just have to be careful about cluttering up my already disorganized and cluttered mind. cindi fukked in the head

naaaaaaaaaa "I would rather be loved by only me,      than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn abusive email sent to me will be posted in the newsgroup(s) at my discretion. **** SPAM CONTROL: take the "s" off the end of my email address ****

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I just think it’s getting bigger because more and more people are getting connected to the net. — Barb                                             **Spot the SPAM!                |**Evil-doers! Knock off all that evil!

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How would you split it up?  A take this group and B take this group?  What happens to the people who never get chosen for anything?  What IMO this n.g. needs is some kind of safeguard to keep people from selling on it. And a way for people to kill threads they are not interested in on their computers.  

There is a way.  I use mine extensively!!! I "killfile" or "filter" anything with 3 dollar signs  $$$, the word money, $10, $20, $30… (to catch the ones with only 1 dollar sign, I can’t wildcard one character with Forte Agent), cash, suicide, cutting, (those two subjects upset me too much–I’m really not all that strong), anything related to any medication (I really don’t have the brain power for it), particular people (and all of their incarnations, so if you get flamed by a known-troll and I don’t write in support, it’s because I didn’t see it), etc. etc. etc. etc.    And I sometimes kill threads I’m just not interested in.  I also use it to "lock" posts from certain people…those whose posts I almost always read (my b/f for one). "I would rather be loved by only me,      than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn abusive email sent to me will be posted in the newsgroup(s) at my discretion. **** SPAM CONTROL: take the "s" off the end of my email address ****

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: : how about alt.support.depression-lite ? Yikes.  This smelled vaguely of flameage. Actually, I was thinking along the lines of alt.support.depression.recovery, or something.  After you’ve been reading the ng for a long time, alot of stuff becomes repetitious. You tend to see the same things over and over…that’s the nature of our illness, I suppose. Being that we share much of the common experience(s). : : where the depressed elite meet to be sweet : (or sarcastic,.. or to discuss film, nutella, : sex with the self and others, basically to : talk about anything besides treatment : and technical matters.) *Just* talking about depression, depression, depression gets pretty damn depressing after awhile, IMO!  Personally, I live for the Nutella/penis size/funny/irrelevant threads.  But that’s my way of dealing with my illness! I daresay alot of others deal this way as well, or there wouldn’t be such a proliferation of these threads. Fuck me till I cry.  I knew I was gonna get flack.  Fine.  It was a bad idea. OTOH, I’m sure there are alot of people who have been around a long time, who would love to stay active in the group, but can’t–as it has grown humungous–and would like to just go back to reading a hundred or two posts a day.  I love ASD, but I CAN’T KEEP UP.  This is stressful in itself! I mean shit, I have a job, a house, a million things and I can’t spend five hours a day reading the newsgroup any more. sigh Maybe I’ll just unsubscribe for awhile, catch up with some RL stuff.  I don’t want to but I don’t see any alternative any more.  600 posts per day is energy-draining. whatever. cindi — Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies. "Great pate, but I really gotta motor if I want to catch this funeral" __Heathers__

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Personally, I would vote for one newsgroup.  If we fragment, I think we will be crossposting and searching for friends.  I have given up trying to read every post in every thread.  I have been selective by author or heading.  I know that I have missed a lot, but right now asd is the only non-work related ng that I read.  I could not handle reading more. ($0.02 – will that be cash or charge) — John Underhay                             |    "I must live this chaos" Prince Edward Island

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.those whose posts I almost always read (my b/f for one).

b/f? Am I the last to know again???? Oh, yeah, and ‘almost always’? Hehehehe…hope he don’t read THAT!!! Tracey

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This has probably come up before, but I was thinking it might not be a bad idea to split up the NG… (snip) I want to keep reading/posting to ASD, but there are just too many posts any more.  I don’t have enough time to read them all,although I wish I could. It’s unbelievable, the amount of volume here…ASD must have gotten some publicity or something, because right before the holidays the volume of posts has doubled, and has been growing ever since. (snip) What do you guys think?  About a split? No flames please, I’m just trying to figure out a feasible way to keep posting/reading the NG without going mad (she says, grinning maniacally). how about alt.support.depression-lite ? where the depressed elite meet to be sweet

(or sarcastic,.. or to discuss film, nutella, sex with the self and others, basically to talk about anything besides treatment and technical matters.) selene

Hmmm… well, how about alt.support.depression.d  Discussions about discussions about depression, etc. This could be a place to talk about non-depression related goodies. Somehow, I don’t think it will work, though, because who’s going to remember to redirect all the SHAVE MY CAT, Nutella, micro-peewee, depressed chickazoid, SPANK FRANKLIN, [insert next topic here] into this new group? How about      a.s.d.spam-hunters       (Hey, Stewart, I harpooned a big ‘un)      a.s.d.nutella-lovers     (FAQ posted weekly)      a.s.d.trolls.die.die.die (No explanation needed)      a.s.d.humor              (Heard on the street and real life experience)      a.s.d.support — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:

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.those whose posts I almost always read (my b/f for one). b/f? Am I the last to know again???? Oh, yeah, and ‘almost always’? Hehehehe…hope he don’t read THAT!!! Tracey

You’re not the last.  I tumbled to this discovery after you did. Now I want to know more.  As Wombn herself has said in this very forum, "Details, details!!!" Larry, who thinks it’s great to hear some good news, even if it takes him a while to get it —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This has probably come up before, but I was thinking it might not be a bad idea to split up the NG… (snip) I want to keep reading/posting to ASD, but there are just too many posts any more.  I don’t have enough time to read them all,although I wish I could. It’s unbelievable, the amount of volume here…ASD must have gotten some publicity or something, because right before the holidays the volume of posts has doubled, and has been growing ever since. (snip) What do you guys think?  About a split? No flames please, I’m just trying to figure out a feasible way to keep posting/reading the NG without going mad (she says, grinning maniacally). how about alt.support.depression-lite ? where the depressed elite meet to be sweet (or sarcastic,.. or to discuss film, nutella, sex with the self and others, basically to talk about anything besides treatment and technical matters.) selene Hmmm… well, how about alt.support.depression.d  Discussions about discussions about depression, etc. This could be a place to talk about non-depression related goodies. Somehow, I don’t think it will work, though, because who’s going to remember to redirect all the SHAVE MY CAT, Nutella, micro-peewee, depressed chickazoid, SPANK FRANKLIN, [insert next topic here] into this new group? How about      a.s.d.spam-hunters       (Hey, Stewart, I harpooned a big ‘un)      a.s.d.nutella-lovers     (FAQ posted weekly)      a.s.d.trolls.die.die.die (No explanation needed)      a.s.d.humor              (Heard on the street and real life experience)      a.s.d.support

Hey I have to say I’ve stayed out of this a) cuz I haven’t been feelin great and b) cuz I figured u guys would just hash this out on your own…… BUT, I like the idea of alt.support.depression.humor Spider

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I’ve just been prescribed 10mg paxil every morning. I don’t want to start taking it until I hear from you guys what to expect as far as side-effects and effects on sleep, eating, mood, etc…. Should I even take it at all? I hate drugs…. Love, Becky

Well, I just started it about one week ago.  I have heard of weight gain with it which is kind of scary but I feel better on it.  I am glad that I feel better because I was not a very happy camper before.  Good luck to you.  Some trouble with sleep mind you. Hopefully will adjust.  Take care.

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I’ve just been prescribed 10mg paxil every morning.   I don’t want to start taking it until I hear from you guys what to expect as far as side-effects and effects on sleep, eating, mood, etc…. Should I even take it at all? I hate drugs…. Love, Becky

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:      a.s.d.humor              (Heard on the street and real life experience) I actually like this idea.  I also like the a.s.d.meds idea–separating out the discussions/questions about medications would help a lot, I think. aeb and her $0.02 Amber Baum                                            There is nothing either Bryn Mawr College                                             good or bad but http://lucien.blight.com/~techne                            –Shakespeare

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Maybe I’ll just unsubscribe for awhile, catch up with some RL stuff.  I don’t want to but I don’t see any alternative any more.  600 posts per day is energy-draining.

Well, then, I guess you won’t see this…   Cindi, I’ve changed the *way* I read.  I’ve set all different kinds of priorities in my head, and I scan down the list with those in mind.  As a student, I no longer have time, either.  (Okay, as a dumb student…)  But with my little mental set of priorities, I can read the list in 1/2 hour.  Or less, depending on my limitations.   One key is that I need to do that at least once a day, or the sheer bulk of downloaded posts becomes too great.   I used to read every single post, and of course, now I never even meet a lot of people.  Of course that makes me sad.  But what are you do do when your little lunchcrowd in the gymnasium turns into a giant rally? Anyway, it works for me–I get to keep up on people I’ve learned to care about, and the community in general (through them), and I have a place to go to whine (and where, at least so far, no one has ever told me to shut up!)  I get my daily chuckles, and food for thought…  Well, I get enough.  :-) Love, Cristi

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Actually, I was thinking along the lines of alt.support.depression.recovery, or something.  After you’ve been reading the ng for a long time, alot of stuff becomes repetitious.

i think you have a point, cindi. really. i’ve been here for 1 1/2 years and it does become repetitious. however, i don’t read all the posts–out of the 100 or so that appear each time i check, i may read 30. i basically scan for author and subject header–and when i’m in a real hurry, i simply scan for author (i know, i know. i’m going to get flamed for this). depending on my energy level and free time, i may go back and look at posts that didn’t immediately catch my eye. *Just* talking about depression, depression, depression gets pretty damn depressing after awhile, IMO!  Personally, I live for the Nutella/penis size/funny/irrelevant threads.  

ditto. those threads kinda disappeared recently, and i lost interest in asd. Fuck me till I cry.  I knew I was gonna get flack.  Fine.  It was a bad idea.

no, it wasn’t. Maybe I’ll just unsubscribe for awhile, catch up with some RL stuff.  I don’t want to but I don’t see any alternative any more.  600 posts per day is energy-draining.

if you do, i’m rilly going to miss you (and i bet i’m not the only one). you keep this place interesting. try scanning the posts and only reading the topics that you feel are interesting. it might help. brooke — it doesn’t matter if we all die ~cure http://don.skidmore.edu/~bmiller/

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I’ve just been prescribed 10mg paxil every morning. I don’t want to start taking it until I hear from you guys what to expect as far as side-effects and effects on sleep, eating, mood, etc…. Should I even take it at all? I hate drugs….

I’ve been taking paxil for 4 days now, the first two days I took the drug in the morning and I felt very tired all day and even sleep a lot, felt like throwing up but didn’t, and was just so tired big time, and no appetite.  The last two days I decided to switch when I take the drug from morning to bedtime and it seems to have helped a lot with not being tired all day and today I didn’t even have to sleep since I woke up this morning. I still feel like throwing up but I haven’t, and my appetite is still nothing but I think it was better than yesterday, hope this helped a little.

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Kees, what you describe sounds exactly like the soc.support.depression.* hierarchy.

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translated to something on the order of: : :If we got rid of the Breggin threads we could cut the traffic by about a :third right there. *evil grin* : Breggin threads??

One of those Canadian curse-words, you know.  To bregg, I breg, they will have been bregging.  I’m no good with etymology, of course, but I believe it may come from ‘bregma’, the greek word for the front of the head. Something that is "breggin’", then, is something so inane and pointless that it makes you slap your forehead in disgust. cp, unabridgin’

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How about      a.s.d.spam-hunters       (Hey, Stewart, I harpooned a big ‘un)      a.s.d.nutella-lovers     (FAQ posted weekly)      a.s.d.trolls.die.die.die (No explanation needed)      a.s.d.humor              (Heard on the street and real life experience)      a.s.d.support

Well, there’s already a.s.d.flame that I guess we can use for spammers.die.die.die and trolls.die.die.die Not that I’ve been around for very long yet to have much say in this, but I think .humor and .support sound great. In soc.support.depression, there is a s.s.d.treatment ; I think maybe a.s.d could use .cutting , .medication , or .therapy (though the last one is difficult to define) OR lump it all together and have a.s.d.treatment . Even though there are some interesting threads that come out of treatment discussions, I’m usually pretty bored with "DOES XXXX and YYYY have ZZZZ effect when taken together????  My UUUU, VVVV and WWWW stopped working!!!!" hugs inclined!  <giggling uncontrollably    I’m just joking; I think cyber hugs are pretty cool.  ;^) – Knite

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