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Question:

st john’s wort, like antidepressant drugs, takes at least a month to 7 weeks to begin to work.

Actually, when I began taking Zoloft, it worked for me right away. Of course, the effects also frightened a lot of people I knew back then, but it worked. — –Qliphoth Evilbastard * Listowner, Esoteric-Emotions (http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/esoteric-emotions) "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent…" (Qui-Gon Jinn)

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Glad to see that some people have goen through the similar things that I have experienced. We have Aetna Health Care so I think money will not be a problem if I need some kind of prescription. As for the DXM, I’m getting rid of the habit. It has made me more miserable than I can imagine. Especially with the flanging incidents where everything is choppy and you fell and move like an insect?  its so annoyingDoes anybody know what I’m talking about? Anyway I’m still in the smoking habit but maybe I can get off of it when I get this depression taken care of. Charter said even if I do get a prescription it’ll take a couple of weeks before the effects kick in. Besides St. Johns Wort costs too much money to keep purchasing bottles when you run out. I might need something more effective. I still feel miserable considering I have to repeat some college courses. I basically feel like shit now since I’ve been off the cough medicine for a couple of days and I’ve smoked more than usual. The people at charter might be able to help find me a job when I get back on track. People sure know how to ruin somebody’s life and they’ll get theirs in return. My goal is to get this depression out my system. Maintain a striaght A average for this semester. And by the time I finish the C++ and Basic Assembly course I can hopefully get a job in some king of assistant programming next summer. And hopefully be able to spend the summer in London and Paris if I can’t get a real job. I’m tired of this minimum wage. I’m smarter than those managers I had at other labor jobs. It’s also a waste of time unless you been there for 5 years and making over $15/hr as a supervisor. I might have to miss out on a few days of school and internet until I get this syndrome straighten out. If I don’t do something now then I lose the battle and unfortunately go for another suicide attempt. Mike people joing my go to world downline. I only have one person but is not P.S. Sorry for changing the subject for a second. I know this ain’t the appropriate place to post this but I’m in need of registered because he owns a Macintosh and you need a PC to run the software. Some of you know what it is when I post the link. They pay for you to surf the web and the more affilites you get to join the more commision you recieve. You can downlad the software which is about 4MB Sorry about this but I need to get my feet off the ground http://www.gotoworld.com/getpaid/members/default.asp?rid=1015231345 Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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however, when you *really* need cough syrup, go dextrometrophan(DXM) as other types worsen depression. i tried, and it did.

| Glad to see that some people have goen through the similar things that | I have experienced. We have Aetna Health Care so I think money will not | be a problem if I need some kind of prescription. As for the DXM, I’m | getting rid of the habit. It has made me more miserable than I can | imagine. Especially with the flanging incidents where everything is | choppy and you fell and move like an insect?  its so annoyingDoes | anybody know what I’m talking about? Anyway I’m still in the smoking | habit but maybe I can get off of it when I get this depression taken | care of. Charter said even if I do get a prescription it’ll take a | couple of weeks before the effects kick in. Besides St. Johns Wort | costs too much money to keep purchasing bottles when you run out. I | might need something more effective. I still feel miserable considering | I have to repeat some college courses. | I basically feel like shit now since I’ve been off the cough medicine | for a couple of days and I’ve smoked more than usual. The people at | charter might be able to help find me a job when I get back on track. | People sure know how to ruin somebody’s life and they’ll get theirs in | return. My goal is to get this depression out my system. Maintain a | striaght A average for this semester. And by the time I finish the C++ | and Basic Assembly course I can hopefully get a job in some king of | assistant programming next summer. And hopefully be able to spend the | summer in London and Paris if I can’t get a real job. I’m tired of this | minimum wage. I’m smarter than those managers I had at other labor | jobs. It’s also a waste of time unless you been there for 5 years and | making over $15/hr as a supervisor. | | I might have to miss out on a few days of school and internet until I | get this syndrome straighten out. If I don’t do something now then I | lose the battle and unfortunately go for another suicide attempt. | Mike | people joing my go to world downline. I only have one person but is not | P.S. | Sorry for changing the subject for a second. | I know this ain’t the appropriate place to post this but I’m in need of | registered because he owns a Macintosh and you need a PC to run the | software. Some of you know what it is when I post the link. | They pay for you to surf the web and the more affilites you get to join | the more commision you recieve. You can downlad the software which is | about 4MB | Sorry about this but I need to get my feet off the ground | http://www.gotoworld.com/getpaid/members/default.asp?rid=1015231345 | | | Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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This is a pretty long message but please can somebody take the time to read

it I have a lot to say and I need some help… I appreciate whoever does.<snipped   Mike, It sounds to me like you have the symptoms of depression,   and perhaps other emotional problems.  Your Grandma was   giving you good advice about seeking medical help.  That is where   we all start when we suspect illness.  You must do this for yourself,   you cannot diagnose your condition, or write a prescription, it   takes a medical Doctor, in the case of emotional illnesses a   Psychiatrist.  If money is a problem, there is usually help available   through your counties Mental Health Dept. based on ability to pay.   I would consider giving them a call as soon as possible.  Good   luck and thanks for shopping K-mart <grin   Vern

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therapy and now my feet swell up so bad I can’t hardly walk unless I put them up several times a day.  Makes me wonder why I keep going.

True2bea, I have the awful feet swelling problem too, lithium is my mood stabilizer.  Do your feet swell more when the ambient temperature is high…..90’s or above.  I only have this problem when weather is hot. Its not fun, do cold soaks and elevations. Vern, the elephant man.

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This is a pretty long message but please can somebody take the time to read it I have a lot to say and I need some help… I appreciate whoever does. I have some kind of syndrome where I don’t have energy do anything. I lost all of my motivation due to past occurences in school, employment, grades, etc. I need to know what I can take to get my life back running again. I used to be happy now I’m just not anymore. I’m depressed and can get suicidal at times. This year it’s become a problem that I just can’t handle anymore and willing to do something about it. First of all I have a hard time getting along with people. I don’t know its like as time goes by ceartain people tend to dislike my personality. Whether it’s at school, a job, or anything. I mess up all the time. It got to the point where I tried to overdose on sleeping pills twice. I take DXM (cough syrup) almost everyday to cope with my problems. Each time I try to get off of it I end up feeling bad again. I think it has a lot to do with not being able to see all of my family all of the time. Its something like once every six I get to see everybody. My personal financial status is always on the downslide because I always seem to loose a job due to motivation problems to the people I work for. I can’t even function normally like I used to. Each time I try to apply for a job I get less and less motivated. I’m am sick of this depression and want to get rid of it now. I want to be able to just do what I like to do without anything getting in the way. This Saint John’s Wort isn’t working well and I’ve been on it for about a month now. I think I need something more affective like Prozac or something. My plan is to eventually have my own recording studio and live in New York. Each time I try to apply myself things just don’t seem to get any better. It’s like you’re tired physically and mentally. Tired of living sometimes. It’s hard to find a job now because I don’t really have any good references for previous jobs because my personality probably sucks. I get depressed I constantly think about the worst. Like it’s a curse or something. For example I can be on this internet searching for things on how to start your own business, learning a computer language, or finding ways to improve your self better. I just all of a sudden stop start to get tired and fall asleep or lay on the couch. It’s a problem for me to be consistent in something. I live in Philadelphia and am currently not happy about my status. I wish I could be going to a good school, getting good grades living somewhere else for a change. I talk to my grandmother occationally, she knows my problems and gets worried that I might do something I’ll regret. She knows about the cough syrup addiction and she knows I’m not physically or emotionally happy. She thinks I need to see a psychiatrist or a doctor to find out what is wrong. Because this is going nowhere. She showed me her old pictures of me and my family and remember when I was happy back then and had no problems. Now look at me I can’t even keep a job for a long period of time, been suicidal over the past and even injured myself a couple of times. You get sick of the way how people treat you. You hate those people who don’t give a fuck about your problems. Then you have those people who only want for themselves. Example the way labor jobs pay their workers who didn’t get a college degree. And those assholes who own part of the corporations, such as McDonald’s, Kmart, Gap, or any other chain store who could care less about the workers in the franchises who make minimum wage. Or what about the people coming up with money making scams? That’s why people rob, steal, and kill. Because other people are greedy. Every oppressed person in America works their butts off only to get small paycheck every other week. And I hate to say this but some people don’t work hard. Back to my subject now. This is what I constantly goes on in my mind and this is the first time I’m expressing things in my opinion. It drives me crazy. I need something to get my life back in order whether it’s prozac, counseling, or whatever. Start thinking about what I want in my life. It’s my turn to do things. I just need to take this one day at a time. People who are reading this message, I thank you and can write me as soon as you get some time. Thanks Mike Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Mike, I can so relate.  We see the injustice and feel the unfairness.  I too, was swallowed in a pit of depression.  I was having anxiety and panic attacks so badly, I lost my work in ‘97 and have been on SSDI for 2 years now.   No energy to even take proper care of my kids at one point.  My house is still not presentable on a daily basis.  On top of this I gained 40 lbs on lithium therapy and now my feet swell up so bad I can’t hardly walk unless I put them up several times a day.  Makes me wonder why I keep going.  Paxil sent my blood pressure sky high.  Prozac put me to sleep.  Now my Pdoc won’t even call me back.     Be as knowledgable as you can about your symptoms, the newer medications, and newer forms of therapy.   Good luck in your quest. When I say I am barely hangin’ in there, it is a true statement. — PBTrue

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Yo Mike,         You just wrote my life’s story. Please go to a PDoc and get some meds for that depression. You do have a problem that needs medication. You may be unipolar or bi-polar, I can’t tell because I’m not a PDoc. But please, do get help, NOW. It only gets worse untreated. Trust me, been there, done that. Hope you feel better soon. Ralph – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a pretty long message but please can somebody take the time to read it I have a lot to say and I need some help… I appreciate whoever does. I have some kind of syndrome where I don’t have energy do anything. I lost all of my motivation due to past occurences in school, employment, grades, etc. I need to know what I can take to get my life back running again. I used to be happy now I’m just not anymore. I’m depressed and can get suicidal at times. This year it’s become a problem that I just can’t handle anymore and willing to do something about it. First of all I have a hard time getting along with people. I don’t know its like as time goes by ceartain people tend to dislike my personality. Whether it’s at school, a job, or anything. I mess up all the time. It got to the point where I tried to overdose on sleeping pills twice. I take DXM (cough syrup) almost everyday to cope with my problems. Each time I try to get off of it I end up feeling bad again. I think it has a lot to do with not being able to see all of my family all of the time. Its something like once every six I get to see everybody. My personal financial status is always on the downslide because I always seem to loose a job due to motivation problems to the people I work for. I can’t even function normally like I used to. Each time I try to apply for a job I get less and less motivated. I’m am sick of this depression and want to get rid of it now. I want to be able to just do what I like to do without anything getting in the way. This Saint John’s Wort isn’t working well and I’ve been on it for about a month now. I think I need something more affective like Prozac or something. My plan is to eventually have my own recording studio and live in New York. Each time I try to apply myself things just don’t seem to get any better. It’s like you’re tired physically and mentally. Tired of living sometimes. It’s hard to find a job now because I don’t really have any good references for previous jobs because my personality probably sucks. I get depressed I constantly think about the worst. Like it’s a curse or something. For example I can be on this internet searching for things on how to start your own business, learning a computer language, or finding ways to improve your self better. I just all of a sudden stop start to get tired and fall asleep or lay on the couch. It’s a problem for me to be consistent in something. I live in Philadelphia and am currently not happy about my status. I wish I could be going to a good school, getting good grades living somewhere else for a change. I talk to my grandmother occationally, she knows my problems and gets worried that I might do something I’ll regret. She knows about the cough syrup addiction and she knows I’m not physically or emotionally happy. She thinks I need to see a psychiatrist or a doctor to find out what is wrong. Because this is going nowhere. She showed me her old pictures of me and my family and remember when I was happy back then and had no problems. Now look at me I can’t even keep a job for a long period of time, been suicidal over the past and even injured myself a couple of times. You get sick of the way how people treat you. You hate those people who don’t give a fuck about your problems. Then you have those people who only want for themselves. Example the way labor jobs pay their workers who didn’t get a college degree. And those assholes who own part of the corporations, such as McDonald’s, Kmart, Gap, or any other chain store who could care less about the workers in the franchises who make minimum wage. Or what about the people coming up with money making scams? That’s why people rob, steal, and kill. Because other people are greedy. Every oppressed person in America works their butts off only to get small paycheck every other week. And I hate to say this but some people don’t work hard. Back to my subject now. This is what I constantly goes on in my mind and this is the first time I’m expressing things in my opinion. It drives me crazy. I need something to get my life back in order whether it’s prozac, counseling, or whatever. Start thinking about what I want in my life. It’s my turn to do things. I just need to take this one day at a time. People who are reading this message, I thank you and can write me as soon as you get some time. Thanks Mike Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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You might try a MD or pdoc, going it alone is a bitch. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a pretty long message but please can somebody take the time to read it I have a lot to say and I need some help… I appreciate whoever does. I have some kind of syndrome where I don’t have energy do anything. I lost all of my motivation due to past occurences in school, employment, grades, etc. I need to know what I can take to get my life back running again. I used to be happy now I’m just not anymore. I’m depressed and can get suicidal at times.

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Debbie, I have gained so much weight, I am passed caring.  I also pass ever weight scale I come near.  If you will keep it a secret……275 at last weighing more than a year ago, and that is on a 5′ 9" frame. 48" waist.  Feel better : o ) Vern (the hippo) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hey Vern- have you had problems with weight gain also? Deb N therapy and now my feet swell up so bad I can’t hardly walk unless I put them up several times a day.  Makes me wonder why I keep going. True2bea, I have the awful feet swelling problem too, lithium is my mood stabilizer.  Do your feet swell more when the ambient temperature is high…..90’s or above.  I only have this problem when weather is hot. Its not fun, do cold soaks and elevations. Vern, the elephant man.

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hey Vern- have you had problems with weight gain also? Deb N – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – therapy and now my feet swell up so bad I can’t hardly walk unless I put them up several times a day.  Makes me wonder why I keep going. True2bea, I have the awful feet swelling problem too, lithium is my mood stabilizer.  Do your feet swell more when the ambient temperature is high…..90’s or above.  I only have this problem when weather is hot. Its not fun, do cold soaks and elevations. Vern, the elephant man.

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hi Mike. st john’s wort, like antidepressant drugs, takes at least a month to 7 weeks to begin to work. you seriously have to break your dependence on cough medicine, that’s a loosing battle of a roller coaster you’re on with that stuff and most other drugs, but i understand does seem like temporary relief. i think it’s important for you to look at all aspects of your health and make appropriate changes … enough but not too much sleep, good food, regular exercise, etc. try to develop some productive and enjoyable friendships with others, interaction is important as well. and don’t avoid looking for or participating in hobbies or other things that you might enjoy. you’re right about economic disparity. it’s not a bad time to look at vocations that you might enjoy or can tolerate that could put you at a higher place on the economic spectrum. this is a long term effort but it starts somewhere. also i think it’s healthy to be philosophical about life’s seeming injustices, there’s always going to be short comings and unfilled desires. read some about stoic philosophy perhaps, and if some of that makes sense you’ll realize you don’t need so much to be satisfied. good luck and write back sometime. t. oh, could some of you please remove alt.teen.depression from the medication related manic depression responses in this thread? i am sorry your feet are fat, however. This is a pretty long message but please can somebody take the time to read it I have a lot to say and I need some help… I appreciate whoever does.

 I have some kind of syndrome where I don’t have energy do anything. I  lost all of my motivation due to past occurences in school, employment,  grades, etc. I need to know what I can take to get my life back running  again. I used to be happy now I’m just not anymore. I’m depressed and  can get suicidal at times. This year it’s become a problem that I just  can’t handle anymore and willing to do something about it. First of all  I have a hard time getting along with people. I don’t know its like as  time goes by ceartain people tend to dislike my personality. Whether  it’s at school, a job, or anything. I mess up all the time. It got to  the point where I tried to overdose on sleeping pills twice. I take DXM  (cough syrup) almost everyday to cope with my problems. Each time I try  to get off of it I end up feeling bad again. I think it has a lot to do  with not being able to see all of my family all of the time. Its  something like once every six I get to see everybody. My personal  financial status is always on the downslide because I always seem to  loose a job due to motivation problems to the people I work for. I can’t  even function normally like I used to. Each time I try to apply for a  job I get less and less motivated. I’m am sick of this depression and  want to get rid of it now. I want to be able to just do what I like to  do without anything getting in the way. This Saint John’s Wort isn’t  working well and I’ve been on it for about a month now. I think I need  something more affective like Prozac or something. My plan is to  eventually have my own recording studio and live in New York. Each time  I try to apply myself things just don’t seem to get any better. It’s  like you’re tired physically and mentally. Tired of living sometimes.  It’s hard to find a job now because I don’t really have any good  references for previous jobs because my personality probably sucks. I  get depressed I constantly think about the worst. Like it’s a curse or  something. For example I can be on this internet searching for things on  how to start your own business, learning a computer language, or finding  ways to improve your self better. I just all of a sudden stop start to  get tired and fall asleep or lay on the couch. It’s a problem for me to  be consistent in something. I live in Philadelphia and am currently not  happy about my status. I wish I could be going to a good school, getting  good grades living somewhere else for a change. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I talk to my grandmother occationally, she knows my problems and gets worried that I might do something I’ll regret. She knows about the cough syrup addiction and she knows I’m not physically or emotionally happy. She thinks I need to see a psychiatrist or a doctor to find out what is wrong. Because this is going nowhere. She showed me her old pictures of me and my family and remember when I was happy back then and had no problems. Now look at me I can’t even keep a job for a long period of time, been suicidal over the past and even injured myself a couple of times. You get sick of the way how people treat you. You hate those people who don’t give a fuck about your problems. Then you have those people who only want for themselves. Example the way labor jobs pay their workers who didn’t get a college degree. And those assholes who own part of the corporations, such as McDonald’s, Kmart, Gap, or any other chain store who could care less about the workers in the franchises who make minimum wage. Or what about the people coming up with money making scams? That’s why people rob, steal, and kill. Because other people are greedy. Every oppressed person in America works their butts off only to get small paycheck every other week. And I hate to say this but some people don’t work hard. Back to my subject now. This is what I constantly goes on in my mind and this is the first time I’m expressing things in my opinion. It drives me crazy. I need something to get my life back in order whether it’s prozac, counseling, or whatever. Start thinking about what I want in my life. It’s my turn to do things. I just need to take this one day at a time. People who are reading this message, I thank you and can write me as soon as you get some time. Thanks Mike

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